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Old 07-24-2015, 09:51 PM
 
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Yes, all that.

I dislike Hillary, but dislike a lot of the GOP choices much more. I think Hillary lies way to much, but so do a lot of the GOP choices. I could go with Christie and probably would before I voted for Hillary, but I think Hillary will prevail, because Trump has the entire GOP at Bay, hiding in the woods, scared to death of him. The reason he scares them so much, is that they know that he knows where their vulnerable spots are, and he will be telling us where they stand. They will look bad if they deny, or if they don't, either way, so they know what's probably coming.


Trump knows how to take a little truth and shape it into "Razor Sharp" spears, which an opponent can not defend himself against without becoming very bloody. SO far he has decimated anyone that has had the nerve to speak against him, including the Press and Media. Trump is very heavy artillery. Will be interesting to see who is left standing after the onslaught of debates.


I can't wait lol The interesting thing about Trump is that he speaks his mind and doesn't back down or back track like all politicians do. But Trump isn't a politician....just a businessman who has nothing to lose.
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Old 07-24-2015, 10:06 PM
 
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Let's put it this way....if someone could possibly trust Hillary before today....today likely did little to change that.
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Old 07-24-2015, 10:47 PM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
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And according to Killary, "What difference does it Make" To her none.
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Old 07-25-2015, 05:39 AM
 
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You have to admit, millions of people were fooled into thinking that Obama meant all of his "Hope and Change" promises that he proceeded to break instantly the first chance he got.

Many people are still mesmerized enough to not see that he is a serial liar.

A lot of those same people are still gullible.


It is important that we hold these corrupt politicians accountable, even if they are dreamy or in the preferred party.
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I guess it doesn't take much to bring "Obama Haters" out of the woodwork these days. Obama did well, in fact well enough to get another term, so your argument is moot. Its only your opinion, proved wrong by reality and facts. If you where right, he would have been a one term President, and you can't spin that in your favor.

Its the GOP that where "mesmerized" by Obama and spent every hour of ever day, trying to get him out of office instead of doing their jobs. They did nothing for us, the people. Nothing. They did not like the idea of a Black Man as President, and still don't. Don't bother getting all puffed up, and posting "Your using the Race Card, Foul, Foul, " either. The truth is the truth, and we all know it.

The truth is, your not going to hold all the crooked Politicians accountable. Your going to pick and choose the ones with your Party affiliation, crooks or not crooks. Yep, lots of "Gullible" people out there, including Obama Haters.
Thanks for volunteering for the sheep test.

So using your logic, Bush didn't lie or mess up in his 1st term (Iraq War), because he was reelected? You are so principled in your "logic" you would say you can't claim Nixon was dishonest, because he was reelected with 49 of 50 states.

You do realize that Obama's hundreds of successful lies helped him get reelected! If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor!

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...-plan-keep-it/

You are literally not very smart if you think that Obama getting reelected moots out my point about his lack of honesty. I shouldn't have to explain to you how someone can be dishonest and win reelection.


1) When Obama promised to allow 5 days before signing a bill into law (exceptions for emergencies) so the public could view and read the bill - did he mean it?

The Obameter: Allow five days of public comment before signing bills | PolitiFact

He broke it on his very first bill and most of his bills. He could have done this promise by himself. Did he intend to fulfill hope and change?


2) Obama blasted Bush for putting lobbyists in WH positions of policy making. Obama promised not to put a single lobbyist in such positions.

Obama's lobbyist rule: Promise Broken | PolitiFact
There are 65 former lobbyists currently working in the Obama administration - The Washington Post

Obama put lobbyists into key WH positions in his first week and simply gave them waivers saying that lobbyists weren't lobbyists. Obama now has MORE lobbyists in the WH than Bush! Did Obama intend to fulfill this hope and change that he broke in his first week and could have done by himself?


3) When Obama wiped away tears talking of being his mother's lawyer fighting for his mother to not be denied health coverage for preexisting conditions was Obama telling the truth? No, he was lying. He even repeated the lie after the liberal Washington Post pointed out that his mother never had health procedures denied and certainly not for preexisting conditions. It was over which company would pay for it and is typical. How can Obama repeat a lie after it is proven a lie? He knows sheep support him *cough* Boris *cough*!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...d4KS_blog.html

Is lying about your own mother's death on the campaign trail part of "hope and change" honesty that he promised?



I could go on, but sheep tend to avoid facts. Use your brain, if you can, and explain how Obama intended to fulfill these promises of Hope and Change and then I will give you more examples of him being a liar that never intended to fulfill much of his Hope and Change.

https://danfromsquirrelhill.wordpres.../15/obama-252/

St. Pete for Peace - Obama fact sheet

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Old 07-25-2015, 05:52 AM
 
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Even Nixon didn't destroy the tapes.
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Old 07-25-2015, 05:58 AM
 
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If Hillary is the dem candidate are they still going to vote for her? If so then they're hatred of her is pretty hollow and meaningless.

No, they will not vote for her. They are principled.
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Old 07-25-2015, 07:24 AM
 
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Wall Street Journal headline: Clinton Emailed Classified Material, Review Says.

There it is. Hillary committed crimes. Hillary lied about it. But the Dems -who are desperate- want sooooo badly for her to be innocent since they only have clowns on their bench. But she's guilty of crimes (see the above Code) and lying about it.
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Old 07-25-2015, 07:29 AM
 
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Let's see about these "phony" Hillary Clinton scandals.

Vince Foster. Is he really dead, or is he hiding out in south Florida and playing Santa Claus at malls during the Christmas season?

Benghazi. Did 4 Americans really die or did they really just defect to ISIS? Hillary supported the LIE that the Obama administration trotted out about the video and etc. She is just as culpable.

And how could we forget:
Chinagate
Travelgate
Whitewater
Livingstone and Filegate
The Cattle Futures Miracle
Lootergate (they were so broke, remember?)
Cabrera the Drug Dealer
Norman Yung Yuen Hsu
The Clinton Foundation taking millions from overseas governments; for what? Girl Scout cookies?
The list of "phony scandals" is impressive. Yet the lemmings on the left will squeal for decades about things like Bridgegate. It's all about political power to the goons on the left. Rules are for everyone else but them.
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Old 07-25-2015, 07:57 AM
 
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The Latest SPIN from CampClinton is that there were no "Sensitive Materials", no Classified Documents and that it's the State Department that "classified" them ...... she says that's not her fault, they were fine when she finally gave them a few documents. I guess we are not suppose to notice that Madam Secretary didn't have the BRAINS to figure out what was and was not ...... Sensitive or Classified.

The very fact that the State Department and Intelligence HAD to (or chose to) Classify Clinton's emails when they finally got them after 6 years ...... speaks loudly of her Total Incompetence. We are already aware of her Total Lack of Ethics when she broke all the rules to have her own unsecured secret Server.

All she has to do so we can "get to the truth" is give up her Secret Server.
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Old 07-25-2015, 09:05 AM
 
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All she has to do so we can "get to the truth" is give up her Secret Server.
Lol. It'll never happen. Every time Democrats are inconvenienced by the truth their computers suffer mysterious malfunctions.
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