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Old 07-23-2015, 11:56 AM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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So what? Plural couples should get benefits because there are no laws allowing plural marriages?
Do you know the definition of couple? There is no such thing as "plural couples".
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Old 07-23-2015, 11:57 AM
 
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I'd like to know WHY same sex couples had benefits extended to them that weren't extended to hetero couples and how the city justified that?
Because same sex couples were not allowed to get married while hetero couples were allowed to get married.
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Old 07-23-2015, 11:59 AM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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You apparently can't figure out what I asked.

The OP states the city extended benefits to unmarried same sex couples that weren't extended to unmarried hetero couples. My question was how they got away with that sort of discrimination?
Heterosexual couples could get those same benefits if they were married. same sex couples were not allowed to get married.
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Old 07-23-2015, 12:09 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Because same sex couples were not allowed to get married while hetero couples were allowed to get married.
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Heterosexual couples could get those same benefits if they were married. same sex couples were not allowed to get married.
Is this really a case of anything but two wrongs allegedly making a right? I understand what you're saying, what I don't understand is why I've never heard of law suits by hetero couples challenging their right to the same benefits as other unmarried couples received.
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Old 07-23-2015, 12:18 PM
 
Location: North Texas
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Just read an article in my local paper that the City council will vote to end the extension of benefits to same sex unmarried couples. Same sex couples wanting to cover a partner will have to marry in order to do so. The city says since they don't offer benefits to unmarried heterosexual couples, it would be inequitable to continue to offer this benefit to same sex couples. I think we'll see more and more municipalities and companies making this change now that same sex marriage is legal in the entire country.
I support gay marriage, and this makes sense to me. Now that gays can get married, why have a special class of benefits just for them? Made sense when they couldn't marry....makes no sense now.
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Old 07-23-2015, 12:19 PM
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Location: Pine Grove,AL
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I'm sure those losing their benefits disagree with you.
Then they werent really in the relationship they were claiming, but those people are few and far between.

The real problem here is that you are mad that you didnt get the response you were hoping for.
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Old 07-23-2015, 12:21 PM
 
Location: Huntsville, AL
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When I use the term 'they' I am referring to the GBLT group collectively.

They are working towards being in their own protected 'CLASS' so as to make their lifestyle more accepted.... as well as giving them rights that others not in that group do not currently have.
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Old 07-23-2015, 12:22 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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Is this really a case of anything but two wrongs allegedly making a right? I understand what you're saying, what I don't understand is why I've never heard of law suits by hetero couples challenging their right to the same benefits as other unmarried couples received.
Heteros had the same rights. You did not have to be gay to have a same sex domestic partner.
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Old 07-23-2015, 12:23 PM
 
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But the OP claims those very same benefits weren't extended to hetero couples. How'd they make that fly? Something just doesn't sound right here.
Benefits for gay 'domestic partners' wasn't at all unusual. Before ssm became legal in CT., gay state employees who met certain criteria received benefits as though they were married. Similar laws existed in plenty of cities and among many large private employers.

The theory was that a hetero person could marry virtually any opposite sex person of their choice , but gays could not marry any same sex person. I don't recall the specific standards for a same sex couple to qualify, but it as simple as merely declaring 'we're partners.'
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Old 07-23-2015, 12:28 PM
 
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Benefits for gay 'domestic partners' wasn't at all unusual. Before ssm became legal in CT., gay state employees who met certain criteria received benefits as though they were married. Similar laws existed in plenty of cities and among many large private employers.

The theory was that a hetero person could marry virtually any opposite sex person of their choice , but gays could not marry any same sex person. I don't recall the specific standards for a same sex couple to qualify, but it as simple as merely declaring 'we're partners.'
I've never heard of this, probably because it never affected me. Still seems to me like something that would've been frequently challenged by hetero couples who didn't feel the need to ask either the state or a religion to bless their relationship.
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