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Old 08-17-2015, 12:43 AM
 
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The fact you even have to ask the question means you shouldn't bother continuing to reply on this thread. Please go read some books.
(hint: private funding. private donations. many other ways. Example: The average college has more than 100 million dollars in donations that actually means that tuition of all colleges is already covered. College should also be free since the cost of going to college is already covered by private funding before any current students paid a dime to the college.)
College is free (or nearly free) to those who are worthy and attend a decent university.

I have taught at many universities, and my Alma mater has an endowment well into the several billions. To say that the average college has more than $100 million dollars in donations is pure ignorance. Majority of the endowment is not made up of principle donations. Additionally, endowments cannot simply be used to cover tuition. The money is not there to just freely use. I suggest you visit a university at some point and learn about how endowments and donations work and the expenditure stipulations associated with them.
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Old 08-17-2015, 12:48 AM
 
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There is no worse insult then calling me a liberal. It is the worst possible thing in the world.
I didn't call you a liberal. I just pointed out your liberal views. Sure, if you think because you have liberal views that you are a liberal, then by your own thought process you would be a liberal.

Your left anti-Constitutional views in regards to public education speak for themselves. You can't backtrack and deny it now. If that's how you feel, then that's how you are. Nobody can change the liberal in you. I'll leave it up to others to determine whether that means you're a liberal or not. To me it's obvious.
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Old 08-17-2015, 05:48 AM
 
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Old 08-17-2015, 06:01 AM
 
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***I went to public school (highly ranked schools in a reputable school district) for the majority of my schooling

Public education is a form of public assistance. Just like food stamps/SNAP, section 8, TANF, etc. Let me explain:
  • Working folks are required to pay into it even if they never use it
  • The people who work face-to-face with the direct recipients of these programs don't get paid very well
  • The funds are controlled and distributed by the government
  • It's difficult to get people to get the employees of these programs fired (even if they aren't doing their job correctly or violating policies)
  • The people who work face-to-face with the direct recipients of these programs are required to follow the regulations set by the government


Complaining about Common Core is like a food stamps recipient complaining about the regulations on what they can buy with their food stamps.

The government doesn't give a d*mn about you! Therefore, what makes you think they care about making sure children are educated properly. For decades people have been saying that schools should teach personal financial management, but it hasn't happened (and it probably never will).

The other options would be private school or homeschooling. People argue that private school is expensive which is not always the case (OPTIONS: secular, non-secular, Montessori, Waldorf, etc.). People also argue that homeschooled kids have socialization issues which is not always the case (OPTIONS: Homeschool co-ops, leave the house, etc.).



Do you agree or disagree with the title? Why or why not?
My daughter goes to parochial school. Therefore any of my tax money that goes to public indoctrination centres I want back.
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Old 08-17-2015, 06:14 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Public education is a form of public assistance. Just like food stamps/SNAP, section 8, TANF, etc.
No, it isn't. Everyone pays for public schools via property tax or the portion of their rent their landlord pays in property tax.

Those who get SNAP, Section 8, Medicaid, etc., typically DON'T pay any federal income tax, which funds those programs.
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Old 08-17-2015, 06:19 AM
 
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***I went to public school (highly ranked schools in a reputable school district) for the majority of my schooling

Public education is a form of public assistance. Just like food stamps/SNAP, section 8, TANF, etc. Let me explain:
  • Working folks are required to pay into it even if they never use it
  • The people who work face-to-face with the direct recipients of these programs don't get paid very well
  • The funds are controlled and distributed by the government
  • It's difficult to get people to get the employees of these programs fired (even if they aren't doing their job correctly or violating policies)
  • The people who work face-to-face with the direct recipients of these programs are required to follow the regulations set by the government


Complaining about Common Core is like a food stamps recipient complaining about the regulations on what they can buy with their food stamps.

The government doesn't give a d*mn about you! Therefore, what makes you think they care about making sure children are educated properly. For decades people have been saying that schools should teach personal financial management, but it hasn't happened (and it probably never will).

The other options would be private school or homeschooling. People argue that private school is expensive which is not always the case (OPTIONS: secular, non-secular, Montessori, Waldorf, etc.). People also argue that homeschooled kids have socialization issues which is not always the case (OPTIONS: Homeschool co-ops, leave the house, etc.).



Do you agree or disagree with the title? Why or why not?
"The people who work face-to-face with the direct recipients of these programs don't get paid very well"

I would beg to differ.
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Old 08-17-2015, 07:01 AM
 
Location: Plymouth Meeting, PA.
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common core takes the power away from the teacher.

see:

Why Are Parents Revolting Against the Common Core? Start With the English Curriculum*|*Nicholas Tampio

http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/lo...259363861.html
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Old 08-17-2015, 08:05 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Lightbulb Public education is a form of welfare...

...that benefits the taxpaying public.

As opposed to corporate welfare, that benefits the fatcats at the expense of the public.

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Old 08-17-2015, 08:53 AM
 
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Please quote the OP and highlight (bold, italicize, underline, change of fond color, etc.) where I complained so that I can get a better understand of where you're coming from. I reread the OP and I don't see the complaints. I only see opinions.



Unfortunately, I don't know how to answer your question because I disagree with your opinion.

I don't think that I'm making postulates that serve no purpose other than to inflame and I cannot identify with where you're coming from; therefore, I cannot come up with an answer.



But in some area



Do I really? I don't think that most people are educated. Especially since I live in the metro-Atlanta area and some one of the education-related stories that surfaced this summer was about Principals telling teachers to pass students even if they're failing (and when the teacher doesn't do it then the principal go ahead and does it).
I lived in metro-Atlanta for over 15 years and moved from there recently. There are great schools in metro Atlanta and some that are troubled, but for the most part the state of GA is growing in its quality in regards to education.

What district had the issue of which you are speaking?

I know there was a scandal within the Atlanta Public School system about 5-6 years ago, but things have turned around since then. Also, APS is not the entire metro-Atlanta area. They have hundreds of school districts. The only ones that have had trouble recently are APS, DeKalb, and Clayton County schools that I am aware of. Maybe there is a newer one that I didn't hear about. If what you are complaining about is within these 3 districts, then those issues are well known. And even with those issues, there are still great schools and dedicated teachers/administrators in all 3 districts.
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Old 08-17-2015, 09:24 AM
 
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My daughter goes to parochial school. Therefore any of my tax money that goes to public indoctrination centres I want back.
It doesn't work like that.
We don't want to pay for a trillions dollar war but we have to.
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