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Old 08-17-2015, 08:02 PM
 
Location: Texas
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My point is that you, yourself, have benefitted from corporations. You DO, in fact, own/use, eat, and wear things that were made by corporations. So has the rest of the American public.
That's no point.

All corporate items any of us has used have been at the corporate price point. In many cases, subsidized by our tax dollars.

So, your point would be...?
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Old 08-17-2015, 09:10 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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That's no point.
Yes, it is. You tried to claim corporations don't benefit the public when in fact, they do, even you.

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All corporate items any of us has used have been at the corporate price point. In many cases, subsidized by our tax dollars.
That's exactly the point. The prices you and everyone else pays for goods and services would be higher without corporate tax deductions.
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Old 08-17-2015, 09:13 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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That's exactly the point. The prices you and everyone else pays for goods and services would be higher without corporate tax deductions.
You might want to research that, historically there is no drop in prices when corporate taxes go down, they simply pass the increased revenue to their stockholders or executives.
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Old 08-17-2015, 09:21 PM
 
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You might want to research that, historically there is no drop in prices when corporate taxes go down, they simply pass the increased revenue to their stockholders or executives.
Even if what you say were true, guess who the vast majority of stockholders are.

Retirement Question 4 | EBRI

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"This shift of business ownership from rich people to working people may be the greatest economic transformation since the Industrial Revolution.

...So what does all this mean? Well, for starters, it should lead to an end of complaints about the profits of corporations and allegations about 'greedy corporations.' After all, much of that profit now goes toward the current and future retirement incomes of working people'
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Old 08-17-2015, 09:25 PM
 
Location: Houston
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The fact is only small government conservatives would favor a flat corporate tax. A nominally high corporate tax rate and many loopholes is the result of government wanting to control businesses.

I doubt if any liberal here favors a revenue neutral transition to a flat corporate tax.
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Old 08-17-2015, 09:28 PM
 
Location: Houston
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Even if what you say were true, guess who the vast majority of stockholders are.
Of course in the mid to long run it is total BS. Taxes, like every other expense, are reflected in the price charged the consumer.
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Old 08-17-2015, 09:37 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Yes, it is. You tried to claim corporations don't benefit the public when in fact, they do, even you.
That's your fantasy, not my claim.

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As opposed to corporate welfare, that benefits the fatcats at the expense of the public.

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Old 08-17-2015, 09:53 PM
 
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Even if what you say were true, guess who the vast majority of stockholders are. Retirement Question 4 | EBRI and... Business Ownership & Labor Day | WebProNews
No, you think because that begs the question. You said prices would drop if corporations could take more tax deductions - can you please stick to the subject and address that?
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Old 08-17-2015, 10:22 PM
 
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That's your fantasy, not my claim.
Your own words...

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...that benefits the taxpaying public.

As opposed to corporate welfare, that benefits the fatcats at the expense of the public.
As a consumer of corporations' goods and services, you, too, benefit from the lower prices made possible via corporate tax deductions. If you have a pension or retirement account, you benefit yet again via corporate profits.

I have no idea why liberals seem to be incapable of comprehending those very simple facts.
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Old 08-17-2015, 10:26 PM
 
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Your own words... As a consumer of corporations' goods and services, you, too, benefit from the lower prices made possible via corporate tax deductions. If you have a pension or retirement account, you benefit yet again via corporate profits. I have no idea why liberals seem to be incapable of comprehending those very simple facts.
This is the second time you posted that, and you have yet to provide any proof for that.
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