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Old 08-17-2015, 09:52 AM
 
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...that benefits the taxpaying public.

As opposed to corporate welfare, that benefits the fatcats at the expense of the public.
Because you don't own or eat or wear anything that was made by a corporation.

How dense can some of you be?
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Old 08-17-2015, 10:08 AM
 
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It doesn't work like that.
We don't want to pay for a trillions dollar war but we have to.
Well..in Nevada it does work like that. The legislature passed a law giving parents a check for $5500 a year to put their kids in private schools or to home school them. Not much help for the middle class who still won't be able to pay the difference in an $8,000 annual tuition but for the folks who can afford tuition it's a nice windfall. Now the idiots who passed this aren't quite sure how they will have home schooling parents prove they are actually spending that money on their kids education..maybe receipts for the educational trips to Disneyland?
https://www.newsreview.com/reno/work...t?oid=17908579
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Old 08-17-2015, 10:09 AM
 
Location: PA
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Education is and will always be the control of the state, to undermine, "ideas" individual ideas and individual freedoms.
Less function constitution freedoms and facts, but ideas of collectivism.

For many in the education are socialist thinkers and have started the seed to implant into young minds.

Give me four years to teach the children and the seed I have sown will never be uprooted.
Read more at Vladimir Lenin Quotes - BrainyQuote

Common core and all forms of education have changed.
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Old 08-17-2015, 11:19 AM
 
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Well..in Nevada it does work like that. The legislature passed a law giving parents a check for $5500 a year to put their kids in private schools or to home school them. Not much help for the middle class who still won't be able to pay the difference in an $8,000 annual tuition but for the folks who can afford tuition it's a nice windfall. Now the idiots who passed this aren't quite sure how they will have home schooling parents prove they are actually spending that money on their kids education..maybe receipts for the educational trips to Disneyland?
https://www.newsreview.com/reno/work...t?oid=17908579
Most places you have taxes on things you might not use or support.
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Old 08-17-2015, 11:23 AM
 
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Most places you have taxes on things you might not use or support.
I agree and I am in no way supporting this Nevada fiasco, their goal is to 'prove' public schools are failure factories and the way to do that is to bribe people who have the means/ability to put their kids in private school or home school out of them, leaving only the most difficult kids to teach in public schools; in Nevada that will largely be the ELL kids.
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Old 08-17-2015, 11:37 AM
 
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It doesn't work like that.
We don't want to pay for a trillions dollar war but we have to.
Yes you do. Its in the Constitution. Education is not.
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Old 08-17-2015, 11:41 AM
 
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***I went to public school (highly ranked schools in a reputable school district) for the majority of my schooling


Public education is a form of public assistance. Just like food stamps/SNAP, section 8, TANF, etc. Let me explain:
  • Working folks are required to pay into it even if they never use it
  • The people who work face-to-face with the direct recipients of these programs don't get paid very well
  • The funds are controlled and distributed by the government
  • It's difficult to get people to get the employees of these programs fired (even if they aren't doing their job correctly or violating policies)
  • The people who work face-to-face with the direct recipients of these programs are required to follow the regulations set by the government

Complaining about Common Core is like a food stamps recipient complaining about the regulations on what they can buy with their food stamps.

The government doesn't give a d*mn about you! Therefore, what makes you think they care about making sure children are educated properly. For decades people have been saying that schools should teach personal financial management, but it hasn't happened (and it probably never will).

The other options would be private school or homeschooling. People argue that private school is expensive which is not always the case (OPTIONS: secular, non-secular, Montessori, Waldorf, etc.). People also argue that homeschooled kids have socialization issues which is not always the case (OPTIONS: Homeschool co-ops, leave the house, etc.).



Do you agree or disagree with the title? Why or why not?
You said:
***I went to public school (highly ranked schools in a reputable school district) for the majority of my schooling

I am having a hard time jiving that line with the rest of what you said.... because its just all so very very wrong.
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Old 08-17-2015, 11:43 AM
 
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Yes you do. Its in the Constitution. Education is not.
Exactly.
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Old 08-17-2015, 11:45 AM
 
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Yes you do. Its in the Constitution. Education is not.
You support spending billions for war & no money for education because of....the constitution? You really agree with that? Holy crap. Only from the mouths of cons would anyone hear that. Keep the ignorant ignorant. Well done.
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Old 08-17-2015, 11:49 AM
 
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You support spending billions for war & no money for education because of....the constitution? You really agree with that? Holy crap. Only from the mouths of cons would anyone hear that. Keep the ignorant ignorant. Well done.
My daughter goes to parochial school. Mainly because public schools are a political tool used by politicians to monkey around the curriculum and they turn out barely functional illiterates.

Get politics and the PC crap out of public schools and they will instantly get better.
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