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Old 12-10-2015, 04:25 PM
 
Location: Secure Bunker
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I did some research. Rape is forbidden in Islam. The guy who yelled "Allahu Akbar" is no different than the KKK members who claim they do what they do for Christ. Both are doing something that goes against Christianity and Islam, but claim their faith allows it. There is a word for this. Hypocrisy.
No, it isn't. Under Islam it is permissible to rape wives and captive women.

Qur’an 23:1-6—The Believers must (eventually) win through—those who humble themselves in their prayers; who avoid vain talk; who are active in deeds of charity; who abstain from sex, except with those joined to them in the marriage bond, or (the captives) whom their right hands possess—for (in their case) they are free from blame.

 
Old 12-10-2015, 04:26 PM
 
Location: Arizona, The American Southwest
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Considering what you said, terrorists are taking God's name in vain. I think most people don't think about that.
Not to mention most of them violated the 6th Commandment, "Thou Shall Not Kill/Murder", and many other scriptures from the Bible that prohibit killing innocent people, and from what I understand, their Quran also mentions something similar, which they seem to be violating all the time.
 
Old 12-10-2015, 04:46 PM
 
Location: Arizona, The American Southwest
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No, it isn't. Under Islam it is permissible to rape wives and captive women.

Qur’an 23:1-6—The Believers must (eventually) win through—those who humble themselves in their prayers; who avoid vain talk; who are active in deeds of charity; who abstain from sex, except with those joined to them in the marriage bond, or (the captives) whom their right hands possess—for (in their case) they are free from blame.
I guess that explains why their prophet Mohammed was married to several woman at once:
(source https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad )

Wives Married
Name ---------------------------- Years
Khadija bint Khuwaylid -------- 595–619
Sawda bint Zamʿa -------------- 619–632
Aisha bint Abi Bakr ----------- 619–632
Hafsa bint Umar --------------- 624–632
Zaynab bint Khuzayma -----------625–627
Hind bint Abi Umayya ---------- 625–632
Zaynab bint Jahsh ------------- 627–632
Juwayriyya bint al-Harith ----- 628–632
Ramla bint Abi Sufyan --------- 628–632
Rayhana bint Zayd ------------- 629–631
Safiyya bint Huyayy ----------- 629–632
Maymunah bint al-Harith ------- 630–632
Maria al-Qibtiyya ------------- 630– ?
 
Old 12-10-2015, 05:43 PM
 
Location: USA
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At this point, the country of Somalia is a failed state.

I notice Iranian immigrants are not doing this crap. Iran is a Muslim country. So is Turkey, Bosnia, and Jordan. I seldom ever hear about immigrants from those nations committing rape in the USA.

I will bring this up, and it makes me cringe to say this because of the ethnicity that I am. There have been many African American men raping African American women.

Native American women often suffer from high rates of rape too. This happened in North Dakota, which is already among top states for rape. Native American women make up a disproportionate amount of the victims.
I have always wondered about this statistic. Does alcohol have something to do with it?
 
Old 12-10-2015, 05:48 PM
 
Location: London
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I have always wondered about this statistic. Does alcohol have something to do with it?
I think it's that plus the Indian Reservations not being under federal law, but tribal law instead, so things don't really get reported or enforced as much.
 
Old 12-10-2015, 05:48 PM
 
Location: Illinois
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They say "Allah Akbar" when they kill people, besides, I'm a Christian and there is the 3rd Commandment that says "Thou shall not take the name of the LORD in vain.".
What do you think about that 6th Commandment about not killing? Have you vow, as a Christian, to never kill?
 
Old 12-10-2015, 06:08 PM
 
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No, it isn't. Under Islam it is permissible to rape wives and captive women.

Qur’an 23:1-6—The Believers must (eventually) win through—those who humble themselves in their prayers; who avoid vain talk; who are active in deeds of charity; who abstain from sex, except with those joined to them in the marriage bond, or (the captives) whom their right hands possess—for (in their case) they are free from blame.
I notice is says abstain from sex. It doesn't say "force someone to have sex". And if you want to get technical, that woman was not a slave or married to him.
 
Old 12-10-2015, 06:11 PM
 
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I have always wondered about this statistic. Does alcohol have something to do with it?
Part of it. I know it has alot to do with other kinds of violence. Another part is that the perp often doesn't get punished.

In the case of this rapist, he will get punished. This didn't happen on tribal land. All I can say is that I'm sorry that the woman got raped.
 
Old 12-10-2015, 06:41 PM
 
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The stupidity in this thread is painful to watch.

Liberals complaining about white men raping women, declaring that "men still think it's okay", and that is what they have the problem with. Yes, some idiots out there think it's okay, but the majority do not.

On the other hand, this particular religion follows a so called prophet who did exactly that, and thought it was perfectly acceptable. And, this particular religion believes it's perfectly okay to marry 7 year old girls. And, this particular religion blames the woman for the rape. It is NOT "just the extremists" who follow that prophet, blame the female, or think it's okay to marry underage girls.

AND YOU WANT TO ALLOW MORE PEOPLE IN HERE WHO ACTUALLY BELIEVE IT'S OKAY?

When was the last time someone was raped and was told, "This is for God! God is great!" while doing so? Please show me just one news story where a "white male American man" did that.

Defending this while complaining about the very thing that this religion deems acceptable is revolting. That any of you can defend this tells me you don't give a lick about anyone getting raped, you only care about your agenda. Sickening.
Some people have never read the Koran or any Hadith and have only met Muslims who are pretty secular. They simply do not, can not, believe that there are people out there that actually hold these beliefs. Even though they read about the atrocities in the paper or on the net, they chalk it up to poverty or ignorance.
 
Old 12-10-2015, 10:00 PM
 
Location: USA
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Some people have never read the Koran or any Hadith and have only met Muslims who are pretty secular. They simply do not, can not, believe that there are people out there that actually hold these beliefs. Even though they read about the atrocities in the paper or on the net, they chalk it up to poverty or ignorance.
I dated a women who left Islam. Her family had some pretty back azz ideas. They called themselves Liberals but thought Gays and people of some races were the scourage of America.
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