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...I don't buy into all the fear that you and others seem to buy into. Do you always take the actions of some and lump everyone else in??
I am talking about the Muslim religion, not my fear. But nice attempt at a deflection.
As for "lumping everyone else in," the Muslim religion includes every Muslim.
If you don't know that Islam mistreats women and non-believers as a matter of policy, then you don't know what you're talking about.
I suggest you look at Post #68 in this thread.
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...The majority of people who think like you probably don't know any Muslims.
I do know Muslims. More importantly, I know the laws and customs of majority-Muslim countries, and I know the tenets of the religion:
It divides the world into two parts -- the "House of Islam", and the "House of War" (hint, hint).
The word "Islam" means "submission," not "peace."
I suggest you educate yourself.
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....What countries are you referring to regarding Muslim men and women? Let me know and I'll be more than happy to agree with you. I was speaking about the US, where the attack occurred. You do know where it occurred don't you???
Muslim countries with Sharia law of various types. Especially Saudi Arabia.
Why do I have to explain this to you? Why don't you know it already?
As for the attack taking place in this country, the relevant issue here is Muslim attitudes towards women, not where the attack took place.
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No differences in attitudes towards women between white American non-Muslim men and Muslim men from Muslim countries?
This is the same as when liberals complain about guns.
They don't feel comfortable talking about who they really fear shooting them in their urban enclaves so they mask it by complaining about rural yokels with guns.
No, it isn't. Under Islam it is permissible to rape wives and captive women.
Qur’an 23:1-6—The Believers must (eventually) win through—those who humble themselves in their prayers; who avoid vain talk; who are active in deeds of charity; who abstain from sex, except with those joined to them in the marriage bond, or (the captives) whom their right hands possess—for (in their case) they are free from blame.
So? I've had a Christian nutjob tell me if a woman is raped, and doesn't scream, it's her fault.
Quoted Deuteronomy 22:24
And he was serious.
False analogy. Catholic priests didn't molest boys in the name of their God or religion; they were pedophiles. Pedophiles choose professions in which they will have unquestionable trust within their communities, especially around children.
So being pedophiles makes a difference?? How do you know that priests didn't use "God" as a piece of candy to lure those boys? I don't recall the Church calling them pedophiles. They just shipped them off to a secluded cloister.
Publicly opposing terrorism is easy, but condemning horrific acts being carried out by religious fanatics isn’t going to bring about the fundamental change that’s needed to get at the root of much of this violence. That change is only going to come from Muslims fighting every single day against oppressive Islamic states. These people have to want, and demand, actual democracy. They have to build nations not ruled by the Quran, but by basic human decency toward everyone regardless of gender, religion or sexual orientation.
Instead, what we got?
This thread is about Muslim migrant beats, rapes woman while chanting allahu akbar.
But we got Oh white men do it too Christians are even worse.
You know? the usual non sense. as if two wrong makes one giant right, usual logical fallacy.
And how many countries did the US invade in the name of nation building, overthrowing governments and try to force change and democracy to those countries? How did that turn out?? The US should have just stayed out and let them live in their world as they did for centuries.
The problem is a man decided he had the right to rape a woman. That's where the problem begins and ends, I don't care what "religion" anyone is spouting.
I'm beginning to understand your username. We have a Governor Moonbeam who thinks a lot like you.
Liberal and left-wing haters of white people, Christians, Americans, Western Civilization and males speak out:
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Originally Posted by RememberMee
...In truth, red blooded America is not much better than Muslim fanatics, they are just tamed, their urges repressed, courtesy of police state. When/if time will come, and repression removed, it will be lynching era all over again. The repressed (in psychological and legal sense) white America combines staggering ignorance and love of simple answers (that dont involve rich &powerful, violence should always be directed down hierarchical ladder), a winning combo.
Glad you love the country and culture that immigrants are just dying to get into. To them, and to you if you are an immigrant, I say in response to your gratitude, "you're welcome."
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...What about giving them 600 years more, working to accelerate secular transformations, or just keeping bigoted bs to yourself?
What about just not letting them into this country in the first place?
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Originally Posted by RememberMee
....America feeds on the world.
It would be more accurate to say that "America feeds the world."
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Originally Posted by triple8s
After it came out that the Catholic Church knew about and protected priests, those "men of God" who were molesting (and doing more) to little boys, did you scream not to allow any more Catholic priests be allowed to come to the US? Did you want Catholic priests to be thrown out of the country?? Did you condemn all the Catholic priests, including the innocent?? To answer that question, it is irrelevant what your religion is, or lack thereof.
The Christian New Testament doesn't approve of child molestation.
But the Koran and Hadiths approve of both rape and child molestation.
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BUB-BYE
Promise?
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Yeah, let's leave the raping of American women to American men because statistically American men seem to be much better at it.
Your basis for saying that?
Why would you want more Muslims, whose religion encourages rape and abuse of women, into this country if you are so opposed to rape and abuse of women?
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Are you reading ALL the posts? How do you know that tens or hundreds of thousands of Muslim immigrants hold that belief?
How do you know they don't.
The one thing we DO know is that their professed religion of Islam DOES hold that belief.
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Even though if you look at the facts, rapes are commited by mostly white people some black
Well let's see, we have about 200 million white people in this country, and about 4 million Muslims.
I dated a women who left Islam. Her family had some pretty back azz ideas. They called themselves Liberals but thought Gays and people of some races were the scourage of America.
It seems that her parents assimilated to the American way.
I notice is says abstain from sex. It doesn't say "force someone to have sex". And if you want to get technical, that woman was not a slave or married to him.
If you want to get technical, it's okay for Muslims to rape non-Muslims according to the tenets of Islam.
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