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The men are been forced to buy maternity-care health insurance policies by Obama's ACA.
Companies can no longer afford to be forced by their governing saboteurs to buy expensive, highly-insured domestic employees that are ornately wrapped and carefully packaged with their own storybooks.
This is actually a deliberate deindustrialization scheme against America by globalists.
The typical job being offshored is a union job. US union employees are covered under large group healthcare plans, where all union employees are offered the same benefit plans and they all carry a maternity benefit and most covered more than the Essential Services mandated by the ACA.
Wages and benefits are negotiated between employers and unions- bargaining agreements.
6 billion of those 6.8 billion people are very poor. They live on about $500 a year if that.
We've consumed 5 times as much because we have produced 5 times as much.
What's clear is that you're very jealous and resentful of the U.S. for its success.
Exactly.
Libs are big hypocrites.
Obama was in love with hedge fund traders before he even became president.
I guess he thinks we can all be Chiefs without any Indians.
Exactly.
Just as illegal immigrant labor doesn't reduce prices (the savings in labor costs go into the employers' pockets), offshoring jobs doesn't reduce prices. Apple's products are made in China with virtual slave labor. But that doesn't make them inexpensive here.
Not all or even most conservatives think that way.
You've put your finger on the logical trajectory of employers doing everything they can to lower labor costs.
We are now at the point where somebody like Trump becomes a desirable candidate -- someone who says he will stop the offshoring of jobs and the flood of cheap immigrant labor into this country.
Unless they're extremely stupid, Americans won't vote themselves out of being able to to make a decent living.
Good point.
Well said.
Democrats stopped defending American workers and jobs a long, long time ago.
The only American workers they defend now are government employees.
Yes, and Immelt and Obama giggled when it was pointed out that the stimulus didn't result in the promised shovel ready jobs.
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What does losing 1400 manufacturing jobs to Mexico have to do with NAFTA??
CLINTON PASSED NAFTA. In opposition to his own party members (initially) Clinton leaned on democrat legistlatures and carried the day to pass NAFTA. NAFTA is Clinton's baby.
"Low wages, no benefuts, no unions, little to no safety laws.........."
Yes- that is why it is not FREE TRADE. We have nations using slave labor and eggregious working conditions to lower costs. Is that what you want for American workers? Are those the situations you would prefer that workers from other nations suffer under?
Wake up- The dems and their "free trade", massive imoportation of poor, unskilled illegals, and high taxes and regulations are killing the US. If you want to have the standard of living "enjoyed" by the third world nations who benefit from our "free trade", be my guest. I, for one, do not want the US turned into a third world cesspool.
German and Japanese manufacturing does just fine with higher wages than the US. What do we have that they don't? TERRIBLE ONE SIDED TRADE AGREEMENTS.
YES. You guys get it.
But watch, Clinton will of course probably end up elected...sigh.
Ford intends to maintain their competitive position as a global auto manufacturer.
Makes no sense for Ford to limit their sales to just 5% of the world's population.
Ford did not begin with ideology of paying workers a living wage. That evolved over time to avoid becoming unionized. In exchange for a higher wage, they expected their workers to learn English, avoid alcohol, maintain a Christian household, keep their residences clean and roach free and anything else the social engineering inspectors deemed appropriate.
Despite the temporary better than average wage, it was not enough to keep employees from unionizing.
It is the demand for bigger profits while insisting on lower wages for everyone that is pushing manufacturing out of our country. Something has to give.
Apple’s $649 iPhone 6 Reportedly Costs $200 to Make
That is 200 dollars including labor and they sell it back to Americans and the shareholders and execs make big bank. A glance at Apple Stocks since they moved to China shows all there is to see.
With Carrier, they will charge the same price, sell us low quality crap, and the shareholders and execs will make bigger bucks.
They made profits, but more is always better when you can sell out your country
Here's United Technologies financials for 2014 for Carrier. I suppose this is the most recent report available.
7% year-over-year increase in profits of $2.8 Billion for $16.8 Billions in net sales for their "UTC Climate, Controls & Security" division. See page 19 of that report for more information.
I guess that's just not enough profit and growth for Wall Street.
The men are been forced to buy maternity-care health insurance policies by Obama's ACA.
Companies can no longer afford to be forced by their governing saboteurs to buy expensive, highly-insured domestic employees that are ornately wrapped and carefully packaged with their own storybooks.
This is actually a deliberate deindustrialization scheme against America by globalists.
Exactly
They are Corporate Globalists or Fascists as Mussolini saw it.
It goes way back but the most noticeable change was in the early 70's when Corporate and Banking Lobbyists in a big way bombarded DC to work for them. Prior to the 70's, Corporate and Banking Lobbyists were small in number. They number in the thousands today
How Corporate Lobbyists Conquered American Democracy
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It has also fundamentally changed how corporations interact with government—rather than trying to keep government out of its business (as they did for a long time), companies are now increasingly bringing government in as a partner, looking to see what the country can do for them.
Since the 70's, this is what Corporate Fascists have brought this country:
NAFTA
GAFTA
GATT
Obamacare
Bank Bail Outs
QE Infinity
China Trade
The Trans Pacific Partnership
Military Industrial Complex
Endless Wars
Did you folks think the rest of the world was simply just going to just always bow down to America and never compete?
This has been going on for decades and is accelerating.
Competition implies voluntary participation as well
Where was the voluntary participation in Communist China when 250 Million Chinese had their lands stolen and bull dozed over and forced to move to the city to make widgets for American Corporations?
Would you be all for the US Government bull dozing millions of Americans Homes in rural areas and having them move to the city to work for slave wages?
Where is the independence and freedom for these people?
China’s Great Uprooting: Moving 250 Million Into Cities
BEIJING — China is pushing ahead with a sweeping plan to move 250 million rural residents into newly constructed towns and cities over the next dozen years — a transformative event that could set off a new wave of growth or saddle the country with problems for generations to come.
The government, often by fiat, is replacing small rural homes with high-rises, paving over vast swaths of farmland and drastically altering the lives of rural dwellers. So large is the scale that the number of brand-new Chinese city dwellers will approach the total urban population of the United States — in a country already bursting with megacities.
So why do you think a manufacturer should shun 6.8 billion people who could never afford goods made by Americans?
You sound like a crooked politician full of lies to get your agenda passed.
You know, the same ones that look for human rights abuses when they have an ulterior motive to invade other countries.
It is all about more money for Wall Street and top elite. Nothing more, nothing less.
The citigroup memo leaked years ago spells it all out and is on track with their predictions for their wealthy clients.
The Citigroup Plutonomy Memos: Two bombshell documents that Citigroup's lawyers try to suppress, describing in detail the rule of the first 1%
"Are they real?" That's the question people usually ask when they hear for the first time of the "Citigroup Plutonomy Memos." The sad truth is: Yes, they are real, and instead of being discussed on mainstream media outlets all over America and beyond, Citigroup was surprisingly successful so far in suppressing these memos, using their lawyers to issue takedown-notices whenever these memos were being made available for download on the internet.
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Plutonomies have occurred before in sixteenth century Spain, in seventeenth century Holland, the Gilded Age and the Roaring Twenties in the U.S. What are the common drivers of Plutonomy?
Disruptive technology-driven productivity gains, creative financial innovation, capitalist- friendly cooperative governments, an international dimension of immigrants and overseas conquests invigorating wealth creation, the rule of law, and patenting inventions. Often these wealth waves involve great complexity, exploited best by the rich and educated of the time.
They are exploiting Globalism not to help others but to help themselves and their cronies.
Citigroup explains how the "non-rich" consumers become increasingly irrelevant within the "plutonomies":
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4) In a plutonomy there is no such animal as “the U.S. consumer” or “the UK consumer”, or indeed the “Russian consumer”. There are rich consumers, few in
number, but disproportionate in the gigantic slice of income and consumption they take.
There are the rest, the “non-rich”, the multitudinous many, but only accounting for surprisingly small bites of the national pie.
The analysts of Citigroup then invent a new term - "The New Managerial Aristocracy":
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The first, and probably most potent, is through a labor backlash. Outsourcing,
offshoring or insourcing of cheap labor is done to undercut current labor costs. Those being undercut are losers in the short term. While there is evidence that this is positive for the average worker (for example Ottaviano and Peri) it is also clear that high-cost substitutable labor loses.
Low-end developed market labor might not have much economic power, but it does have equal voting power with the rich.
In other words, the top wealthy elite fear the voting power of those below them, might end their gravy train.
Places like Carrier move their jobs but still expect U.S. courts to do things like protect their patents.
Exactly, Corporations like Carrier love Nations and the governments they can get in bed with to protect them, but hate it when when same governments interfere in their Globalist ambitions.
They want all the benefits of Nationalism, Military Protection and Corporate Welfare and all the benefits of Globalism and want others to pay for it.
Globalists need to be thrown out of National Governments since they love Globalism so much.
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