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Old 02-13-2016, 10:40 AM
 
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All Trade Pacts should be canceled.
We saw the devastation NAFTA had on this country and Mexico.

When Big AG moved to Mexico, a lot of family farmers lost their land, and shortly after, we had a huge increase in illegals crossing into our country. If Nafta was so great for Mexico, then why the huge influx of illegals in this country?

Probably because the globalists don't care and knew that would happen and look at Mexico, Canada and the US as one country = North American Union and those illegals represent cheap labor to bring this country down faster.

The only ones that benefit from these trade agreements are the Wall Street and the Corporate FatCat Class.

So, now that Carrier moved to Mexico, we can expect low quality products at the same price coming back.

Meanwhile, those 1400 workers can go work for McDonald's making 8 bucks an hour and drawing unemployment and welfare in this "Service Sector Economy" we have been changed into where we serve each other fries.

And best of all, we can blame it on Democrats or Republicans, but don't you dare blame it on the Corporate and Banking Globalists that sold this country out to pad their portfolios.
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Old 02-13-2016, 10:42 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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All Trade Pacts should be canceled.
We saw the devastation NAFTA had on this country and Mexico.

When Big AG moved to Mexico, a lot of family farmers lost their land, and shortly after, we had a huge increase in illegals crossing into our country. If Nafta was so great for Mexico, then why the huge influx of illegals in this country?

Probably because the globalists don't care and knew that would happen and look at Mexico, Canada and the US as one country = North American Union and those illegals represent cheap labor to bring this country down faster.

The only ones that benefit from these trade agreements are the Wall Street and the Corporate FatCat Class.

So, now that Carrier moved to Mexico, we can expect low quality products at the same price coming back.

Meanwhile, those 1400 workers can go work for McDonald's making 8 bucks an hour and drawing unemployment and welfare in this "Service Sector Economy" we have been changed into where we serve each other fries.

And best of all, we can blame it on Democrats are Republicans, but don't you dare blame it on the Globalists that sold this country out to pad their portfolios.
NAFTA benefited business and trade, not individuals.
If NAFTA didn't benefit Americans why would you think NAFTA would benefit Mexicans ?

These trade deals are not for the peoples' benefits. They are for business and trade.

The globalists do care. The goal of globalists is not to lift everyone in the world to the same status as American workers.
The lower rungs will rise while the upper rungs will decline. It will norm somewhere in the middle. Then you have your true "global worker" as the labor cost will be the same in any country.

And that means first world countries will decline. That's the way it is. Adjust, adapt or be left behind.
You can't stop it.

Hillary is a globalist. And she's going to be sitting in the Oval Office come 2017. You can bet on it.
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Old 02-13-2016, 10:49 AM
 
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NAFTA- the gift that keeps on giving.
Import poverty, export jobs....the agenda marches on.


Every time you see a politician talk about how great free trade is, remember stories like this.

Free trade is working class Americans losing jobs and corporations getting richer. It's been that way since day 1 and establishment republicans and establishment democrats are both in favor it.

Only Trump is against shipping jobs to slave wage nations!!


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Russell Athletic relocated nearly it's entire textile manufacturing base from the southeast U.S. to Mexico and parts of Central America.

Several years after relocating there, the people down there formed unions, because they wanted better wages and last I read, they were moving their manufacturing plants again.

I think they are going to parts of Asia now(Vietname, Korea, etc.)

You see, it's a basic human thing. People who work hard, want to reap some of the rewards. That's true, regardless of what country they live in.

We need to expand workers rights across the globe or the elite class will be raping them
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Old 02-13-2016, 10:50 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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NAFTA- the gift that keeps on giving.
Import poverty, export jobs....the agenda marches on.


Every time you see a politician talk about how great free trade is, remember stories like this.

Free trade is working class Americans losing jobs and corporations getting richer. It's been that way since day 1 and establishment republicans and establishment democrats are both in favor it.

Only Trump is against shipping jobs to slave wage nations!!





We need to expand workers rights across the globe or the elite class will be raping them
Trump cannot stop globalism. It's beyond his authority.
More laws, more penalties, higher taxes and no company will want their HQ in the US.
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Old 02-13-2016, 11:00 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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There are about 2 retired UAW for every active UAW member. The US auto makers have to fund those legacy pensions.

Toyota has no such legacy obligations.
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Old 02-13-2016, 11:04 AM
 
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You people scare the hell out of me. You really do. These jobs are leaving because:

A) we tax the **** out of companies. The highest in the developed world
B) NAFTA and Obama's TPP will cause more to flow out.

It has EVERYTHING to do with Obama and the death grip of liberal policy and regulations for Christ's sake.
Wrong
They are leaving because they purchased politicians to pass these trade pacts and if they had zero taxes, and can still make more money from slave labor where workers have no rights, like China, then they will still leave.

The solution to the problem starts with electing presidents that are Pro American first and will rape the Globalists by killing off their cash cow trade agreements.


Are you a Globalist or Pro American?
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Old 02-13-2016, 11:09 AM
 
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Why can't our tariffs and taxes on imports mirror those of our trading partners? Why does an american car cost twice as much to buy in Asia as it does here? Tariffs and taxes.
We buy 4 times more from China that they buy from us.
They also have tariffs. It will cost you 15 bucks in China for a box of fruit loops.

The Corporatist that took over out government do not want tariffs, because that hurts them when they moved to China or Mexico and sell back to their number one customer - us

Tariffs are Constitutional and Pro American
Globalists hate tariffs if it is not in their favor.
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Old 02-13-2016, 11:09 AM
 
Location: 🇬🇧 In jolly old London! 🇬🇧
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Video Shows 1,400 Workers Learning They Just Lost Their Jobs to Mexico - Conservative Outfitters

I wonder why they think these people are going to work hard when they know their jobs are moving to Mexico?
Personally I thought they took it rather well considering, I've been at a company myself when only 8 of us got laid off and it didn't end so well for the bloke that told us .

They also asked us to carry on working ( one weeks notice ) but we came in and took the mick by doing absolutely nothing!.

Hope they find work soon
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Old 02-13-2016, 11:14 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Until the US Government gets off their high horse about taxing global income and mandating employers "pay for it all" companies will continue to leave.
Taxing global income diverts funds that would otherwise be used to increase share holder value via stock buy backs and dividends. It has nothing to do with creating or sustaining US jobs.

A US multinational corporation can easily avoid taxation on their world wide income with a PO box in a tax haven country and they do.

Many of the existing " home office" functions can easily be outsourced/ offshored to India. No need to pay a US employee $ 100,000 when the job can be done just as well in India for $20,000. The differences in benefits nd payroll taxes is added gravy.
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Old 02-13-2016, 11:21 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Mexico: def time to impose some taxes on their stuff being imported to the US. They need us a whole lot more than we need Mexico. Too; while we're at it, return their citizens here illegally, by force if needed.
I don't know about that.

Mexico maintains amongst the most bilateral free trade agreements with the rest of the world. Putting aside labor costs, it is cheaper for most any country to import from Mexico than it is the US because of these bilateral free trade agreements.
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