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Old 02-12-2016, 07:01 PM
 
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Video Shows 1,400 Workers Learning They Just Lost Their Jobs to Mexico - Conservative Outfitters

I wonder why they think these people are going to work hard when they know their jobs are moving to Mexico?
Thank you Bill Clinton.

Isn't it weird that there someone of the same last name who is running for POTUS now? Weird.
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Old 02-12-2016, 07:01 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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Wow. I'm surprised the employees just stood there and took it. I saw one guy walked out. Good for him. They ought to ALL have just walked off the job right then and shut the company down. I understand they have mortgages to pay and kids to feed. But all they are doing is delaying the inevitable.
Walking out is an emotional response.

It would likely disqualify them from potential retention incentives, severance and unemployment benefits.
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Old 02-12-2016, 07:07 PM
 
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What is " something" .

This situation has nothing to do with NAFTA.

Do you want a government that prohibits US corporations from competing for global business?

Well then, get ready for US business to pack it up and relocate elsewhere and I am not talking about maintaining a PO box in a tax shelter country.
No-

We want a government that does not agree to "free trade" agreements that use slave wage labor workers, cheap materials, toxic additives, and pollute the hell out the environment in doing so.

Clinton paved the way for US corporations to slaughter the manufacturing sector and the middle class, all with the guarantee that US citizens would have "clean service jobs" while the third world did "the dirty jobs".

The Clintons, along with the turncoat republicans purchased by lobbyists, who created these deals should be shot. Now we have Obama doing the same thing through the Pacific Rim trade agreements.

Proponants of these rigged deals celebrate our selling and sending commodoties to these third world nations. Production of commodities does not generate as many jobs and is a resource which is difficult to expand in scope as much as manufacturing. There is not as much of an "echo effect" in commodites as there is in manufacturing.
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Old 02-12-2016, 07:08 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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You were doing OK until this:

"I thought conservatives were supposed to be champions of the free market. This is the free market in action."

This is NOT the "free market"

It is a result of NAFTA which was CLINTON.

The last I checked he was NOT a conservative.
This company has 80 manufactures facilities all over the world.

What does this situation have to do with NAFTA?

As an aside, NAFTA negotiations began within the Reagan Admin. Bush 1 executed the ceremonial signing, subject to Congress approval. Congress eventually approved it and Clinton signed it.
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Old 02-12-2016, 07:12 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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No-

We want a government that does not agree to "free trade" agreements that use slave wage labor workers, cheap materials, toxic additives, and pollute the hell out the environment in doing so.

Clinton paved the way for US corporations to slaughter the manufacturing sector and the middle class, all with the guarantee that US citizens would have "clean service jobs" while the third world did "the dirty jobs".

The Clintons, along with the turncoat republicans purchased by lobbyists, who created these deals should be shot. Now we have Obama doing the same thing through the Pacific Rim trade agreements.

Proponants of these rigged deals celebrate our selling and sending commodoties to these third world nations. Production of commodities does not generate as many jobs and is a resource which is difficult to expand in scope as much as manufacturing. There is not as much of an "echo effect" in commodites as there is in manufacturing.
You've described China quite well, I guess since Clinton didn't open trade with China you're unconcerned, eh?
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Old 02-12-2016, 07:15 PM
 
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You've described China quite well, I guess since Clinton didn't open trade with China you're unconcerned, eh?
Not who you are talking to, but...

Clinton pushed China into the World Trade Organization so that they could do large scale trade with the West.

Clinton then hammered out a new permanent trade deal with China.

Clinton attacked people who opposed this and compared them to hard line Chinese communists.

Clinton's policies so a massive swelling of our trade deficit (especially in regards to China).

Ditto for outsourcing.

Bill Clinton's True Legacy: Outsourcer-in-Chief


Not that Republicans don't have hypocrisies, but one of the biggest wonders is how Democrats pretend that Clinton was great for the economy outside one side of their mouth while detesting all of his policy results out the other side of their mouths.
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Old 02-12-2016, 07:15 PM
 
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You people scare the hell out of me. You really do. These jobs are leaving because:

A) we tax the **** out of companies. The highest in the developed world
B) NAFTA and Obama's TPP will cause more to flow out.

It has EVERYTHING to do with Obama and the death grip of liberal policy and regulations for Christ's sake.
That is correct. Liberals are obsessed with the US "wealth gap". However, liberal policy:

1. NAFTA
2.China trade status
3. Pacific Rim
4. Open borders immigration
5. High corporate taxes
6. Massive EPA regualations
7. Trial lawyers unchecked
8. cap and trade

....................... are the very reasons for "the wealth gap". If liberals actually cared about US workers, they would ardently oppose the above. Given that libs support these measures, it clarifies that libs are hell bent on increasing the number of poor, dependent people in the US and thus more democrat slaves.
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Old 02-12-2016, 07:16 PM
 
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Leeches are in favor of offshoring jobs now.

What do they care?
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Old 02-12-2016, 07:26 PM
 
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Not who you are talking to, but...

Clinton pushed China into the World Trade Organization so that they could do large scale trade with the West.

Clinton then hammered out a new permanent trade deal with China.

Clinton attacked people who opposed this and compared them to hard line Chinese communists.

Clinton's policies so a massive swelling of our trade deficit (especially in regards to China).

Ditto for outsourcing.

Bill Clinton's True Legacy: Outsourcer-in-Chief


Not that Republicans don't have hypocrisies, but one of the biggest wonders is how Democrats pretend that Clinton was great for the economy outside one side of their mouth while detesting all of his policy results out the other side of their mouths.
Offshoring American jobs has been going on since long before the Clinton era. In the late '60s RCA used to manufacture vacuum tube components in NJ, ship them to Brazil to be assembled, then return the finished tubes to the states. Just as now, Americans lost jobs so the corporation could fatten its bottom line. This is all old news in a new wrapper.
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Old 02-12-2016, 07:29 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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And the end result will be products that are affordable in emerging nations.

US labor is just too expensive when you want to peddle your product globally.
Indeed. Then there's those pesky bilateral free trade agreements Mexico maintains with the rest of the world

Obviously such agreements become highly politicized in the US.

Interestingly, both NAFTA and TPP ( which has nothing to do with this situation) were Republican initiatives and passed Congress with Republican majorities and signed by Democrat Presidents in opposistion to their own party.
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