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Old 03-24-2016, 10:05 AM
 
Location: Miami, FL
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This has nothing to do with unemployment.
NPR piece day before yesterday mentioned this particular Muslim quarter had 35% unemployment which correlates to unrest and then criminal behavior. They alluded to being more susceptible to terrorist activities.
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Old 03-24-2016, 01:06 PM
 
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These weren't refugees, these were home grown Belgians going back and forth to Syria. Conservatives want to ban all Muslims or Syrian refugees.
once again you show that you are either just plain WRONG, you have no reading comprehension, or you are lying to try and prove a point. we do not want to ban all muslims, but rather stop them from entering the country until such time as they can be properly vetted.
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Old 03-24-2016, 03:54 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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once again you show that you are either just plain WRONG, you have no reading comprehension, or you are lying to try and prove a point. we do not want to ban all muslims, but rather stop them from entering the country until such time as they can be properly vetted.
What is "proper vetting" are there specific proposals as to what they look like because I have yet to hear a thing. The refugees have already been vetted for years before being allowed to enter but the Visa program is a candidate for improvement. Your the one who brought up refugees.


Tell me whats the difference between stopping a religious group from immigrating versus a ban?
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Old 03-24-2016, 04:02 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Wow, it's obvious you're from New York. If you wanted a link you should have asked for one in the first place. Operative word being asked.


FBI Director: About 900 Active ISIS Investigations In U.S.

ISIS: Potentially 'Thousands' of Online Followers Inside US Homeland, FBI Chief Warns - ABC News

‘Thousands’ of ISIS fighters now inside U.S. cities
The disussion was ISIS trained cells insiode the US and the 400 number was from documented sources in europe, an investigation, online followers does not equate to thousands of trained terrorists from ISIS.
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Old 03-24-2016, 04:06 PM
 
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What is "proper vetting" are there specific proposals as to what they look like because I have yet to hear a thing. The refugees have already been vetted for years before being allowed to enter but the Visa program is a candidate for improvement. Your the one who brought up refugees.


Tell me whats the difference between stopping a religious group from immigrating versus a ban?
its called digging into the background of these people to make sure they are NOT terrorists in disguise. ISIS has said they would in fact send terrorist fighters into the US as refugees fleeing persecution. in other words they are going to use our laws and compassion against us.
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Old 03-24-2016, 04:08 PM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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The disussion was ISIS trained cells insiode the US and the 400 number was from documented sources in europe, an investigation, online followers does not equate to thousands of trained terrorists from ISIS.

There are 900 that they know of and there are thousands more that they suspect. And if you'd been reading the news you would know that they don't properly vet incoming Muslims or San Bernardino wouldn't have happened. They interviewed the wife three times and missed what she was up to.

You can't be seriously posting about this given the ignorance shown here:

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What is "proper vetting" are there specific proposals as to what they look like because I have yet to hear a thing. The refugees have already been vetted for years before being allowed to enter but the Visa program is a candidate for improvement. Your the one who brought up refugees.


Tell me whats the difference between stopping a religious group from immigrating versus a ban?
You have yet to "hear a thing"? What, does some agency call you with the scoop?

They haven't been vetted for years. Try and keep up.
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Old 03-24-2016, 06:23 PM
 
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once again you show that you are either just plain WRONG, you have no reading comprehension, or you are lying to try and prove a point. we do not want to ban all muslims, but rather stop them from entering the country until such time as they can be properly vetted.
What jobs do you imagine terrorists aspire to?
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Old 03-25-2016, 06:37 AM
 
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Where are the arrests of family members of the St Bernadino terrorist family members who claimed they were not radicalized? The mom who lived at the same house and can't claim not knowing.

Yesterday a so called former radical islamist said on TV that many times it is entire families who know about it as these terrorist don't trust outsiders so they keep it with brothers, sisters, cousins, parents, etc.

Like the Boston bombers, etc.
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Old 03-25-2016, 07:04 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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There are 900 that they know of and there are thousands more that they suspect. And if you'd been reading the news you would know that they don't properly vet incoming Muslims or San Bernardino wouldn't have happened. They interviewed the wife three times and missed what she was up to.

You can't be seriously posting about this given the ignorance shown here:



You have yet to "hear a thing"? What, does some agency call you with the scoop?

They haven't been vetted for years. Try and keep up.
Long response but you still have not indicated what needs to be changed in the vetting of refugees, I don't think you are aware of the current process yet you want to stop refugees from coming here.
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Old 03-25-2016, 10:06 AM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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Long response but you still have not indicated what needs to be changed in the vetting of refugees, I don't think you are aware of the current process yet you want to stop refugees from coming here.
I still have not indicated what needs to be changed? When did that enter the discussion?

Every time you've posted something and it's dispelled, you post some demand in response as though it was part of the discussion in the first place.

Bottom line - it needs to be changed before we allow entry of any additional Muslims. WHAT needs to be changed or HOW it needs to change is not my job.

If someone posted that Elon Musk shouldn't put any people on SpaceX until the problems are resolved, would you argue that they're unaware and need to post specifically what needs to be changed?

You might, but that would make about as much sense as your current posts do.
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