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Old 04-26-2016, 02:08 PM
 
Location: ATX-HOU
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Originally Posted by InformedConsent View Post
Not when there's a contract involved, and the contract doesn't explicitly forbid it.

Come on, people. Have none of you ever heard of employment contracts?
Lol... Bless your heart.

We have heard of employee contracts. Schilling had to sign one to work with ESPN and he broke it. Now he is fired.... You see... 1+1= 2
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Old 04-26-2016, 02:13 PM
 
Location: ATX-HOU
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This will be the last time I respond to you, because you just don't get it. ESPN does not HAVE to cite anything for YOU.

/theend
Mental disorders/learning disorders are a terrible thing. Give those type of folks a break...
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Old 04-26-2016, 02:29 PM
 
Location: Free From The Oppressive State
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...and they are guilty of having double standards

Schilling loses his job for posting an offensive tweet about the transgender issue and another ESPN employee bragged on Twitter about almost ramming into a car because of a bumper sticker and not only kept his job, but to the best of my knowledge was never even reprimanded for it.

Once again, certain people, certain politics and certain groups are fair game to the PC crowd and you can say any disgusting thing you want to them or about them and they could not care less. Go after one of their protected groups though and they will do whatever they can to fire you, sue you or shut you up.
Okay, so they are guilty of double standards. What is your solution? You want government involved in that? This is a private business, not a government business. What is your solution to tell employers how they have to think and what they have to say, and what actions they have to take?

THAT is my problem with all of this whining about it. I don't agree with ESPN, nor do I agree with what Schilling did - but at no time do I feel that we should start ordering companies around and telling them who they can and cannot get rid of. It is their company, they have that right. I am extremely uncomfortable with anyone, ON EITHER SIDE, EVER trying to take away that right from a company.
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Old 04-26-2016, 02:42 PM
 
Location: H-Tine, Texas
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I'm fine with that...
as long as those consequences are applied consistently!

Why wasn't THIS ESPN employee fired or even reprimanded?
"almost rammed car with palin bumper sticker. with intent.. held up..coulda been kids in car."
https://twitter.com/kenny_mayne/stat...76974363852800

Oh! It's because political correctness isn't really about civility at all. It's about using civility as a pretext to silence opinions and ideologies that the PC police disagree with.

Now, I'm no Palin fan and I voted for Obama once they put her on the ticket but COME ON!!!
Can you imagine if someone had said they almost rammed a car with intent because it had a LGBT bumper sticker on it?
Man, I don't know what to tell you, your grievance is with ESPN. This was almost 5 years ago, maybe they as a company decided to become more strict with their employees. Remember, this was Schilling's third strike, not his first controversial statement.

Curt is far from the only ESPN personality who has been fired for things s/he has said, yet I've never seen C-D so outraged over someone's firing.

Colin Cowherd
Rob Parker*
Jason Whitlock*
Dana Jacobson
Bill Simmons
Etc.

*black people, for those who love to place the race card

No outrage for these folks.

I think it would help you if you tried to look at this from the prospective of the employer, especially if the government started to tell you who you can or can't fire based on your code of conduct/ethics.

Edit: I will say, I find it kind of funny that some people who complain about how the government (EEOC) basically forces companies to hire certain people who look a certain way (AA), turn around and basically are promoting/encouraging government interference when an employer fires someone for violating their rules/conduct/contract.

Ho hum.

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Old 04-26-2016, 02:46 PM
 
Location: University City, Philadelphia
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Is "Thought Police" a division of what law enforcement entity? Local city police? County sheriff's office? State troopers? FBI? CIA?

Curt was arrested by which police force?
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Old 04-26-2016, 03:08 PM
 
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Man, I don't know what to tell you, your grievance is with ESPN. This was almost 5 years ago, maybe they as a company decided to become more strict with their employees. Remember, this was Schilling's third strike, not his first controversial statement.

Curt is far from the only ESPN personality who has been fired for things s/he has said, yet I've never seen C-D so outraged over someone's firing.

Colin Cowherd
Rob Parker*
Jason Whitlock*
Dana Jacobson
Bill Simmons
Etc.

*black people, for those who love to place the race card

No outrage for these folks.

I think it would help you if you tried to look at this from the prospective of the employer, especially if the government started to tell you who you can or can't fire based on your code of conduct/ethics.

Edit: I will say, I find it kind of funny that some people who complain about how the government (EEOC) basically forces companies to hire certain people who look a certain way (AA), turn around and basically are promoting/encouraging government interference when an employer fires someone for violating their rules/conduct/contract.

Ho hum.
I'm not outraged over Schilling and I really don't care one way or another for him or his opinions. I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy here. I'm sick of this type of PC crap where certain groups and people are off limits and others are fair game.
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Old 04-26-2016, 03:10 PM
 
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Is "Thought Police" a division of what law enforcement entity? Local city police? County sheriff's office? State troopers? FBI? CIA?

Curt was arrested by which police force?
Do I seriously have to explain what a figure of speech means?
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Old 04-26-2016, 03:27 PM
 
Location: ATX-HOU
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Do I seriously have to explain what a figure of speech means?
Was his free speech violated?
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Old 04-26-2016, 03:42 PM
 
Location: Phila & NYC
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Curt Schilling’s Firing from ESPN is Perfectly Acceptable (Legally)

Can ESPN Legally Fire Curt Schilling Over Post? | LawNewz
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Old 04-26-2016, 03:47 PM
 
Location: H-Tine, Texas
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I'm not outraged over Schilling and I really don't care one way or another for him or his opinions. I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy here. I'm sick of this type of PC crap where certain groups and people are off limits and others are fair game.
There's a chance he wouldn't have been fired for this one issue, but it was the 3rd time he'd been in trouble. Considering he had been given two chances before, he was his own worst enemy.
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