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How about people take personal responsibility and attack the core of the problem....crime???
How about a better challenge? Get a few people together and police the area yourselves?? I know it wouldn't be easy, but community watches can be very successful.
Because it's much easier to just sit back and blame everyone one else for the high crime in their areas.
You know I seriously wish black people WOULD 'opt out' of having police servicing them and let them hire whoever they wanted to protect them. Heck even let them setup their own court system and appoint their own judges and let them handle everything when it comes to dealing with black criminals in their neighborhoods.
Maybe it will all work out for blacks if they get to police and deal out punishment however they choose and maybe it won't, but at least we won't have to hear about them complaining and whining about 'the system' screwing them over and police treating them unfairly ever again hopefully.
They have that already. He is called the local drug dealer/gang leader. This is no different than the Italian mafia from the 1950's in New York. You pay for "protection" or you become their "target".
I have noticed the huge difference between police defenders, and people like me who despise the idea of the government having a monopoly on authority and violence.
I have actually lived in the projects, was raised them back in the 80s. I have seen first hand how much of a failure the police are. And today in high crime areas, you can almost always link it to police neglect. Police don't actually stop criminals. What happens when a criminal robs you home, and you live in the projects? They tell you to file a police report, it goes into some file, never to be looked at again. What happens when you get robbed?
That happens in the suburbs, too, with property crime and I'm going all the way back to the 1980s. They have x number of crimes and x number of resources. They apparently prioritize the crimes to go along with the resources so the more serious crime/violent crime you have in an area, the more likely theft falls by the wayside.
When I first moved to my Tennessee suburban town, 9 years ago, the town newspaper used to put every single crime in the town newspaper along with photos of who was arrested and their addresses. Steal a ham from the supermarket, get arrested for drugs and DUIs (very common here), you made it into the newspaper with your address. I used to write to my friends back in NY that if you spit on the sidewalk here, you made the papers. The photos in the paper of the worst offenders (bank robbery, car jacking, murder, at one time metal theft) looked like an episode of COPS. Skeezy-looking bunch, black or white, sometimes just passing through from a big (for Tennessee) neighboring city.
Hardly any violent crime in your suburban town, the more likely the police will pursue the roller skates stolen out of your driveway. A little more violent crime in your suburban town, the police may write up a report on the skates but not pursue it. A lot of violent crime in your suburban town, the police won't even write up a report on the stolen skates.
I don't know about you but I like the idea of police showing up. That's why I don't live in a big city.
I have noticed the huge difference between police defenders, and people like me who despise the idea of the government having a monopoly on authority and violence.
I have actually lived in the projects, was raised them back in the 80s. I have seen first hand how much of a failure the police are. And today in high crime areas, you can almost always link it to police neglect. Police don't actually stop criminals. What happens when a criminal robs you home, and you live in the projects? They tell you to file a police report, it goes into some file, never to be looked at again. What happens when you get robbed? Police will blame you and say "well you shouldn't have been walking around this area at night".
Growing up it was always a given that police sucked. When I worked for the government, and worked closely with the police, I saw the same ol stuff. Police basically protecting the rich, and crapping on the poor. Tons of police response in low crime neighborhoods, but almost zero in high crime neighborhoods.
Police generate revenue for the city or state. And you really don't make the city or state any money when you waste your time going after gang members. If you don't have any drugs you can steal from people in the community, then they're not even worth your time trying to pursue. And that's the real police for you. Police don't care about stopping crime. They just care about stealing drugs from people, blaming victims of crime, and bullying people "just to look busy".
So I'll issue you a challenge. Why don't you actually take some money, rent a spot in a low income, high crime neighborhood. And then evaluate how "great" of a job police are doing. You game?
You make a good point. I used to work in a terrible Atlanta neighborhood. We had problems with gangs (It was a gov't building with a middle school inside- among many other offices). Calling the police did no good- they simply would not respond- even claimed they couldn't find the building- it was 3 stories high!!
You know I seriously wish black people WOULD 'opt out' of having police servicing them and let them hire whoever they wanted to protect them. Heck even let them setup their own court system and appoint their own judges and let them handle everything when it comes to dealing with black criminals in their neighborhoods.
Maybe it will all work out for blacks if they get to police and deal out punishment however they choose and maybe it won't, but at least we won't have to hear about them complaining and whining about 'the system' screwing them over and police treating them unfairly ever again hopefully.
I recently deactivated my facebook. But when I use to live on there, I actually proposed the idea of privatization of police in the black community. A ton of black people were VERY open to that idea, and felt it has some validity. Unfortunately most black leaders have a horribly socialistic agenda, an they control the community and organization of people in certain poor neighborhoods. So these you don't see this idea pitched very often in poorer neighborhoods.
People also have to realize most BLM protestors are not the same type of black people who live in ghettos. Most BLM protestors I've met are actually mostly middle or upper middle income blacks, raised in the suburbs, and majority of them are college students or BARELY out of college. They're more on board with the pro-Obama democrat propaganda.
A lot of poorer black neighborhoods really aren't pro-democrat. They either get behind fringe leftist groups. Most of them actually preach separatism. But since most blacks in these poor neighborhood lack economic and political education. And a vast majority don't even vote, and has no confidence in the voting process.
There however aren't on the street community organizers with a Libertarian or anarcho-capitalist viewpoint. People like me are completely ineffective in impoverished neighborhoods, and I have no real way of reaching them. I do think as society in general becomes more Libertarian, certain more aggressive black leaders will start to promote the Libertarian mindset among poorer blacks. Poor blacks are not the establishment blacks who they toss up in the media, so they're a major wildcard in the political system.
I say this to you, "Can you just imagine if you actually thought this through logically."
"Make traffic fines lower"
They should make traffic fines HIGHER.
Low fine do NOT discourage people from breaking them.
HIGH fines DISCOURAGE breaking them.
The problem is that guys like Castile, who is indicative of the traffic problems in the hood, simply disregard the traffic laws that the rest of us follow and often times, never pay their fines. Instead of locking them all up, the courts throw the stuff out and let them continue doing. What they should do is increase the fines and penalties for breaking traffic laws and encourage them to use public transportation, which is all the rage among the left anyhow.
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