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No they don't. They protect one another behind the thin blue line. You've made some absurd statements in this thread but this one takes the cake. Police weed out the bad ones. LMAO
Is that why they don't turn in the bad cops, because they are honest?
It's about police brtality that goes unchecked
My advice to you is research before you post. Look up areas that have privatization. We know government is inefficient.
"No they don't. They protect one another behind the thin blue line. You've made some absurd statements in this thread but this one takes the cake. Police weed out the bad ones"
This not even the MOST ABSURD statement YOU have made.
Law enforcement as a whole is racist and is the big organized crime unit in America. They are not held accountable. A few good ones. Not many.
Too many cops don't speak up. They are almost as bad.
Let's assume every single cop is a racist and criminal.
There are 850 thousand of them.
That is nowhere close to just the number of FBI designated gang members in the US, much less other organized crime groups and the huge numbers of wannabes that surround core gang members.
If you think 850k would be "the big organized crime unit in America", then you have no clue of the scale of crime in the United States.
I have noticed the huge difference between police defenders, and people like me who despise the idea of the government having a monopoly on authority and violence.
I have actually lived in the projects, was raised them back in the 80s. I have seen first hand how much of a failure the police are. And today in high crime areas, you can almost always link it to police neglect. Police don't actually stop criminals. What happens when a criminal robs you home, and you live in the projects? They tell you to file a police report, it goes into some file, never to be looked at again. What happens when you get robbed? Police will blame you and say "well you shouldn't have been walking around this area at night".
Growing up it was always a given that police sucked. When I worked for the government, and worked closely with the police, I saw the same ol stuff. Police basically protecting the rich, and crapping on the poor. Tons of police response in low crime neighborhoods, but almost zero in high crime neighborhoods.
Police generate revenue for the city or state. And you really don't make the city or state any money when you waste your time going after gang members. If you don't have any drugs you can steal from people in the community, then they're not even worth your time trying to pursue. And that's the real police for you. Police don't care about stopping crime. They just care about stealing drugs from people, blaming victims of crime, and bullying people "just to look busy".
So I'll issue you a challenge. Why don't you actually take some money, rent a spot in a low income, high crime neighborhood. And then evaluate how "great" of a job police are doing. You game?
OP is typical, 'you don't understand me' attitude, therefore whatever you have to say is irrelevant.
I am a victim, it's your fault, so I reject your help. My conditions for you to understand me can never be met so everything I say is the unassailable truth.
I prefer to be an eternal victim and enjoy the angst.
I once lived in a high crime city and almost everybody considered the police to be an occupying army for the wealthy and also collection agents for the IRA.
My advice to you is research before you post. Look up areas that have privatization. We know government is inefficient.
How do you define efficiency for a police force? When you use the measure of profit generated for dollar invested, like would be normal for government, of course government is inefficient. It _should_ be inefficient.
So what is the measure you use? (And how much does it cost to measure it?)
I have noticed the huge difference between police defenders, and people like me who despise the idea of the government having a monopoly on authority and violence.
I have actually lived in the projects, was raised them back in the 80s. I have seen first hand how much of a failure the police are. And today in high crime areas, you can almost always link it to police neglect. Police don't actually stop criminals. What happens when a criminal robs you home, and you live in the projects? They tell you to file a police report, it goes into some file, never to be looked at again. What happens when you get robbed? Police will blame you and say "well you shouldn't have been walking around this area at night".
Growing up it was always a given that police sucked. When I worked for the government, and worked closely with the police, I saw the same ol stuff. Police basically protecting the rich, and crapping on the poor. Tons of police response in low crime neighborhoods, but almost zero in high crime neighborhoods.
Police generate revenue for the city or state. And you really don't make the city or state any money when you waste your time going after gang members. If you don't have any drugs you can steal from people in the community, then they're not even worth your time trying to pursue. And that's the real police for you. Police don't care about stopping crime. They just care about stealing drugs from people, blaming victims of crime, and bullying people "just to look busy".
So I'll issue you a challenge. Why don't you actually take some money, rent a spot in a low income, high crime neighborhood. And then evaluate how "great" of a job police are doing. You game?
The people who pay the salaries get the most service.
We assign more police presence to high crime areas
The ghetto gets more police at 2am than does a remote mountaintop of some wealthy beach community of affluence...
Parking tumbleweeds..or chasing thug gang members.... hmmm a PhD in public administration isn't needed
What is needed is the truth
Lacking from anti police posters on here...
We listen to them..who here would like to pull over one of these jokers... who by the way would probably pee in their pants ... that is if they haven't been hardened by multiple arrests of their own doing...
That's closer to reality
Yes..a contract city CAN pay for more police...generally they want traffic enforcement cars that write tickets..which are what many complaints are in communities of affluence..Johnnie was driving too fast on my street... and they get a policeman as a bonus..city managers look at the cost effectiveness of the service they receive... general areas get police services assigned by a matrix that isn't complicated... calls for priority service. Priority means calls that kill people ...
By the way most affluent communities in the US are NOT contract cities... so it's doubtful they will ever see the "tumbleweed" car
This is known as "workload"application of resources... there's a lot of people out there that have other metrics...this one makes common sense... determine judtifiable need based upon reality...fill it.
I hope this education will be of some benefit to you
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What makes the government inherently more virtuous, righteous, and moral than some gang? What gives the government the moral high ground. Why is it simply "right" because it's controlled by the government?
You elect that "Government" and you have the right to speak up for what you want.
Organize your neighbors and present your plan to the City Council, contact the Media with your plan.
Tell them all you want to Gangs to provide your Security and no Police Officers should come into your neighborhood.
Be sure and update us on what your neighbors and the City Council think about all that and if it works out for you. I doubt the Police will argue with you if the City Council/Mayor tells them of your "No Go" area. You should have a lot of support for this from BlackLivesMatter.
Problem Solved!
I say this to you, "Can you just imagine if you actually thought this through logically."
"Make traffic fines lower"
They should make traffic fines HIGHER.
Low fine do NOT discourage people from breaking them.
HIGH fines DISCOURAGE breaking them.
You are not kidding. I got a ticket once for going 35 MPH. That ticket was $250. (I was going 35 in a 25 MPH school zone, which had recently changed from 35 to 25.) I can assure you that I have NEVER speeded in a school zone since and that was about 20 years ago!
Poor neighborhoods already pay for police protection. They just don't get a choice what police they get. But if they can afford police now, if they were able to opt out of the public police service, they would have money to hire their own.
You know I seriously wish black people WOULD 'opt out' of having police servicing them and let them hire whoever they wanted to protect them. Heck even let them setup their own court system and appoint their own judges and let them handle everything when it comes to dealing with black criminals in their neighborhoods.
Maybe it will all work out for blacks if they get to police and deal out punishment however they choose and maybe it won't, but at least we won't have to hear about them complaining and whining about 'the system' screwing them over and police treating them unfairly ever again hopefully.
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