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Old 11-01-2016, 09:58 PM
 
Location: Japan
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Context. In the context of these children they have not dealt with it except as a US issue. A few may pick it up from biblical reference...but the there is no particular reason they should be aware of the historical place of slavery.

I would think this is another of those non issues we like to fasten to. A good world history professor should be able to demonstrate that slavery is an ancient custom. The US however had its own variant with the slave as a draft animal.

But I am unable to find a big problem. Those coming out of High School are only barely educated. And if you get to the meat those out of college have a long way to go. But is that wrong in some way?
You make statements like this while labeling other "barely educated"?
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Old 11-01-2016, 09:59 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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You make statements like this while labeling other "barely educated"?
The irony was overwhelming on that one.
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Old 11-01-2016, 10:05 PM
 
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If the Professor and author think that eleven years of teaching equals 'most college students', then they have a problem with math.
He wouldn't need to literally teach more than half of all college students in America to draw conclusions about "most college students", just a fairly representative sample of them.
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Pesta, currently an associate professor of English at the University of Wisconsin Oshkosh, has taught the gamut of Western literature—from the Classics to the modern—at seven different universities, ranging from large research institutions to small liberal arts colleges to branch campuses. He said he has given the quizzes to students at Purdue University, University of Tennessee Martin, Ursinus College, Oklahoma State University, and University of Wisconsin Oshkosh.
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Old 11-01-2016, 10:16 PM
 
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Fair enough, did not intend to imply otherwise.
I know, just thought I would point out that people of the past should not be judged by the mores of society of our time. One day our own descendants will look at us like we were horrible, maybe for abortion or eating animals or using air conditioning, even though those things are acceptable today by many.
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Old 11-01-2016, 10:19 PM
 
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There is only so much you can teach in a day. History is only one subject. Each subject is what, maybe an hour maybe 45 minutes. The entire history of the world just isn't possible to teach. But my son majored in history so he knows things I was never taught.
My daughter took AP World History last year and learned about slavery pretty indepthly. I even learned enough about it in regular history to know it wasn't solely an American problem. If kids didn't learn that in this day and age, it's either a poor history curriculum or they weren't paying attention.
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Old 11-01-2016, 10:27 PM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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I think people actually are as uninformed as we think they are.

My stepdaughter, age 50, missed Abraham Lincoln's birth year by 100 years. (I said 1819 and she tried to correct me by claiming 1919) and thought that slavery was "back in the 30's sometime".

She is a mortgage broker who will make $100,000 this year.

I ran into one of her old teachers last year who remembered my stepdaughter as a "good student".
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Old 11-01-2016, 10:28 PM
 
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This is the most amazing claim in the article:
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Often, more students connected Thomas Jefferson to slavery than could identify him as president, according to Pesta. On one quiz, 29 out of 32 students responding knew that Jefferson owned slaves, but only three out of the 32 correctly identified him as president.
Has it really gotten to the point that Jefferson is known more as a slave owner than as a president and founding father?
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Old 11-01-2016, 10:29 PM
 
Location: Flippin AR
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And some of us STILL think the education system has not degraded into just another Progressive Indoctrination scheme...
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Old 11-01-2016, 10:31 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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This is the most amazing claim in the article:

Has it really gotten to the point that Jefferson is known more as a slave owner than as a president and founding father?
At least they aren't confusing him with George Jefferson?

(Wait...they don't who he is either)

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Old 11-01-2016, 10:31 PM
 
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My daughter took AP World History last year and learned about slavery pretty indepthly. I even learned enough about it in regular history to know it wasn't solely an American problem. If kids didn't learn that in this day and age, it's either a poor history curriculum or they weren't paying attention.
Slavery is only a small fraction of our history. My son took AP history too. Slavery wasn't a part of that. Honestly, why are you leaving it up to teachers. Parents are the first educators. Teach you children and not leave it up to others
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