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Old 11-17-2016, 05:19 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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I think this guy hits the nail pretty much on the head.


White people are tired of hearing of all the "privilege" they have, of being told we're all racists whether we know it or not, etc.
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Old 11-17-2016, 05:21 PM
 
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According to you. Unless you have some kind of evidence beyond your opinion, that's all it is.
thanks. my proof is that White Republicans elect black conservatives when we get a chance. While the vast majority of black democrat politicians are elected in black majority districts.


Guys like Allen West aren't just elected but when beat by a white democrat, he is widely accepted in Republican circles and is now running a conservative think tank in Dallas. Tim Scott is a black senator from a southern state elected by white republicans.
Dr. Carson was considered a serious candidate for President with zero political experience he was pushed forward by white republicans.


there are many examples of such. even in my own community at the local level my school board member is African American. this is a very conservative place. he didn't just get elected he has been reelected multiple times.
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Old 11-17-2016, 05:22 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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well, I read it.


there are parts of this that I agree with. It jives with Jim Webb's recent comments that white working class voters from PA WI and MI who voted for Obama twice, voted for Trump because they no longer felt welcome in the Democrat party.


I also agree that this cross over to Privilege Theory has done a great deal of harm.


what I don't agree with is that this has led to white tribalism. The fact is the democrat party created identity politics because they decided it was the path to power. that methodology by the left is the cause of all this. THEY created the tribes.


Even still I totally reject the idea that whites who were left out had to run to some all white tribe. The things that Mr. Trump has said are simply things that many of us identify with.


Consider Trumps view on illegal immigration. His view is indistinguishable from that of Caesar Chavez. Chavez was a very liberal Union Activist. He is a hero of the left. He hated illegal immigration from Mexico.


It isn't the white folk that changed. Its the LEFT that changed. identity politics became their winner.


there are dozens of examples

Until it became their loser.....


The thing about Identity politics is that in order to perpetuate it, you need a scapegoat, and they chose to scapegoat and effectively write off the biggest identity group of them all. They were artful at finding just the right balance for many years.... Scapegoat white people just to the extent that they could effectively consolidate all minority groups on their side of the political spectrum, but not to such an extent that they'd lose the moderate, liberal leaning white vote. In the last few years, they went overboard and forced out even the moderate liberal leaning whites. Apparently they forgot they needed them to win.

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Old 11-17-2016, 05:25 PM
 
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Until it became their loser.....


The thing about Identity politics is that in order to perpetuate it, you need a scapegoat, and they chose to scapegoat and effectively write of the biggest identity group of them all.
my hope is white conservatives will continue to reach out to minorities and prove they desire the very best for those who have been trusting these PROGS. If we do that, we can prove by action what words will never prove.
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Old 11-17-2016, 05:34 PM
 
Location: Japan
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First, the Federalist and the article /author are far from SJW's, but neither of you even bothered looking before weighing, or you would have known that. Brilliant.
I was thinking the same. It's amazing how quick some people are to spout off. They might as well just paint "idiot" on their foreheads.
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BigDGeek, very interesting article. I know I've conveyed some of the same frustration in threads here, but have gotten a pat on the head and 'you're wrong' in response to them.
Yes, I've been saying some of the same things for years, that the rhetoric and actions of the left on race, the egregious double standards, would make a return to a racial mindset on the part of mainstream whites inevitable. And now that's happened.
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Old 11-17-2016, 05:36 PM
 
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White people are tired of hearing of all the "privilege" they have, of being told we're all racists whether we know it or not, etc.
Poor babies. Need a group hug?
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Old 11-17-2016, 05:38 PM
 
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my hope is white conservatives will continue to reach out to minorities and prove they desire the very best for those who have been trusting these PROGS.
Let me know how that hopey-changey thing works out for ya.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUuhJ61tlpw
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Old 11-17-2016, 05:39 PM
 
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I've been saying some of the same things for years, that the rhetoric and actions of the left on race, the egregious double standards, would make a return to an racial mindset on the part of mainstream whites inevitable.
What a prophet you are.
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Old 11-17-2016, 05:40 PM
 
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Until it became their loser.....


The thing about Identity politics is that in order to perpetuate it, you need a scapegoat, and they chose to scapegoat and effectively write off the biggest identity group of them all. They were artful at finding just the right balance for many years.... Scapegoat white people just to the extent that they could effectively consolidate all minority groups on their side of the political spectrum, but not to such an extent that they'd lose the moderate white vote. In the last few years, they went overboard and forced out even the moderate whites. Apparently they forgot they needed them.
Good points. It will be interesting to see how this strategy is adjusted. The identity politics left might just double down, figuring that they can still win, but just need to try even harder and wait for more demographic change to kick in.
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Old 11-17-2016, 05:41 PM
 
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thanks. my proof is that White Republicans elect black conservatives when we get a chance.
You do?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Dp6-KveQhw
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