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Old 12-16-2016, 06:05 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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If you can take you head out of the sand and answer the question - So it's not the policies of those in charge? It's words?
It's the words when China says they're going to do something if Trump doesn't start acting right.

How much clearer does it need to be?? China says they are going to do something bc of all the sh** Trump had been talking, then.... they do the thing they warned us about!

Again... One more time... so that it gets through your head....

China: We are going to do XYZ BC OF TRUMP!
CD Conservatives: OMG... China did XYZ BC OF OBAMA...
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Old 12-16-2016, 06:07 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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You did make it up. China or America will not war with each other because one leader called another leader a bad name. Is that why Japan attacked Pearl Harbor? Because we called Japan a bad name or was it something to do with policies like the Versailles Treaty and sanctions?

I know, I know, bad example. I shouldn't use Pearl Harbor as an example of war because there were no boots on the ground.
It doesn't matter what you think the end goal of this is. China says they were itching to do something bc everything Trump had been saying. Then they do something that upsets us, and you're confused about who to blame? Even after they told you who to blame?
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Old 12-16-2016, 06:44 PM
 
Location: Brackenwood
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Well let's be serious. WHY the hell would we have a "science vessel" in the South China sea?

Because it was a spy vessel.

I'm no fan of China, but it sounds like we lost that one fair and square if you ask me.

Before anyone responds, ask yourself something. Would you be ok with a "Chinese science vessel" cruising around a hundred miles or so off the coast of Florida? Probably not.
We have these things deployed all over the world for scientific research, and no they are not "spy vessels." And it wasn't anywhere close to 100 miles off China's coast -- it was closer to a THOUSAND miles off their coast.

This was straight-up unprovoked aggression. If you're no fan of China, stop acting like a paid propaganda shill for their military.
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Old 12-16-2016, 07:00 PM
 
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We have these things deployed all over the world for scientific research, and no they are not "spy vessels." And it wasn't anywhere close to 100 miles off China's coast -- it was closer to a THOUSAND miles off their coast.

This was straight-up unprovoked aggression. If you're no fan of China, stop acting like a paid propaganda shill for their military.

Folks need to understand that REGARDLESS of our intentions, it's not our world.

I'm still gonna go with spy vessel. Because given our debt a "science vessel" would be beyond stupid.
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Old 12-16-2016, 07:08 PM
 
Location: SE Asia
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Folks need to understand that REGARDLESS of our intentions, it's not our world.

I'm still gonna go with spy vessel. Because given our debt a "science vessel" would be beyond stupid.
Almost as stupid as taking in thousands of refugees, when we have 600,000+ homeless Americans.
Almost as stupid as billions in foreign aid, often to countries that are corrupt beyond measure.
Almost as stupid as involving ourselves in Libya and Syria.
Almost as stupid as spending 1.4 trillion on a plane that can't hold its own against a plane 40 years old.
Almost as stupid as 2 billion a copy for air force 1 replacements.
Almost as stupid spending $27.00 a gal for bio fuel v.s $3.50 a gallon for conventional fuel.
Almost as stupid as giving Solyndra 540 million dollars.
I could go on. There is no limit to Government waste and stupidity.
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Old 12-16-2016, 07:18 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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There was a similar incident when Obama took office in 2009, also with Bush. Two incidents early in Bush's tenure, one ship but there was also an accident between a military plane and a Chinese air craft. The Chinese pilot was killed and the US plane did an emergency landing in China and they held the crew for 11 days.


I hope Trump is ready, the honey moon is almost over.
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Old 12-16-2016, 07:28 PM
 
Location: Brackenwood
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Folks need to understand that REGARDLESS of our intentions, it's not our world.

I'm still gonna go with spy vessel. Because given our debt a "science vessel" would be beyond stupid.
It may not be "our" world but we have every right to operate in international waters -- "spy" vessel or not.

How much is the Chinese government paying you? Or are you this dense for free?
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Old 12-16-2016, 07:31 PM
 
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It may not be "our" world but we have every right to operate in international waters -- "spy" vessel or not.

How much is the Chinese government paying you? Or are you this dense for free?

Ohhh, another Cruz supporter, lol.
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Old 12-16-2016, 07:38 PM
 
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China can send some drones in Gulf of Mexico or Gulf of California. Let see how people react.
Oops it was a big deal when Cuba wanted to install Soviet missiles.
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Old 12-16-2016, 07:42 PM
 
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We have these things deployed all over the world for scientific research, and no they are not "spy vessels."
How old are you? Believe in propaganda much?
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