Trump will ask taxpayers to pay for border wall, not Mexico (deport, illegals)

[Finn_Jarber]

Originally Posted by FatBob96

Seizing them entirely maybe not a good idea.

Taxing them ensures that the money keeps flowing, seizing them practically guarantees that those sending the money will seek to find ways around it.

Great idea. We send them payments for oil, and then seize the payments.

BRILLIANT!!!

[Ponderosa]

Originally Posted by dechatelet

So, contrary to Finn Jarber's claim above, it wasn't built.

It depends on how you define a "fence". The double barrier 14 footer, no. I read that only 36 miles was actually built. The cost was prohibitive and the thing is ugly to say the least. It sticks out into the ocean in San Diego. If you mean vehicle barriers and pedestrian barriers in popular crossing spots, then yes, they did that. The hot spot for illegal crossings has been pushed to the Rio Grande now because of fencing and natural barriers.

[Finn_Jarber]

Originally Posted by dechatelet

Source?

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/109-2006/s262

It's not hard to look up basic information

[Camaro5]

If we evened out the trade deficit with Mexico they could build a wall to Bolivia and it wouldn't cost the US taxpayers a nickel. THAT is how you get Mexico to pay for the wall.

[dechatelet]

Originally Posted by Finn_Jarber

Repeating "you are wrong" is such a compelling argument

The bill never authorized a complete wall, it authorized 700 miles, and 613 of it was completed by April 2009.

"The Secure Fence Act of 2006’s goal is to help secure America’s borders to decrease illegal entry, drug trafficking, and security threats by building 700 miles (1,100 km) of physical barriers along the Mexico-United States border.

By April 2009 Homeland Security had erected about 613 miles (985 km) of new pedestrian fencing and vehicle barriers along the southwest border from California to Texas."

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/109-2006/s262

Your own source says that the fence was never completed.

It was barely even started, as Ponderosa points out.

[Finn_Jarber]

Originally Posted by T-310

Uh they went around it. An unfinished wall is useless.

Well, Bush asked for 700 miles, and the border is a heck of a lot longer than that, so it was going to be an incomplete wall by design.

[1AngryTaxPayer]

Originally Posted by T-310

Uh they went around it. An unfinished wall is useless.

No it's not. It only needs to block out large urban centers on the Mexican side. If fools want to die in the desert, oh well.

[Finn_Jarber]

Originally Posted by dechatelet

Your own source says that the fence was never completed.

I said from the start 613 miles was completed, which you denied.

Have a nice day.

No time for people pretending to be dense.

Sheesh......

[seeriously]

Seems like his supporters have been Trumped!

[Taratova]

Liberal news media twisting again. Congress looking at all possibilities on how the wall will get there. It will get there. That is the bottom line for Trump supporters and we can tax Mexico to get there.