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Old 01-16-2017, 09:46 AM
 
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Mash and Gunion Powder, are you both from another country originally? And living in the U.S. now?
Sound like absolutist subset of libertarians to me, surprised they haven't brought up 'shunning'.
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Old 01-16-2017, 09:47 AM
 
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I linked it to show that while this behavior in the OP isn't pedophilia, it is still related and comes with its own set of issues. It certainly isn't okay to act this way.
It's not a psychiatric disorder, and if the girl is above 16, it's even not a crime in most states. So, for me, for the police and for the psychiatrics it's absolutely ok.
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Old 01-16-2017, 09:50 AM
 
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Feminist here! Great question!

Its actually kind of a backwards logic if you think about it. Historically speaking, women have been thought to be weaker, less intelligent, softer than their male counterparts. Because of this stereotype, people will often go easier on women because they feel that (a) a woman couldn't possibly be as savage, perverse, hateful, etc as a man or (b) feel that women can't handle the rigors of prison.

This mindset towards female criminals is directly related to the patriarchal view of women as second class citizens who are not as tough or smart as men.
What is one of the reasons women say that a man hitting a woman is wrong...? That's right, that they are typically weaker than men so then the damage is harder on them. So women and feminists themselves know that what you said is true.

If it's because women can't handle the rigors of prison, why are there female correctional facilities to begin with?

So if society goes "easier" on women, why do ya'll make an issue of double standards like women and sexuality? Clearly if we as a society believe women are such angels, feminists wouldn't think it's worth fighting for to say that they should screw whoever they want without being called names...

Fact of the matter is this woman did a disgusting crime. And out of all of the other petty BS non-sense feminists fight over (i.e. "man-spreading", "man-splaining", bathroom sizes, etc.) they could fight against this if they wanted to and help women get EQUAL (ya'lls favorite word) SENTENCES as men do the same way a man that molested a 13 year old girl would.
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Old 01-16-2017, 09:51 AM
 
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Sound like absolutist subset of libertarians to me, surprised they haven't brought up 'shunning'.
No, not an absolutist. Just speaking in general terms.
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Old 01-16-2017, 09:54 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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Another Example Of The Male/Female Double Standard When It Comes To Child Abuse

if the boy was a 13 year old gay boy; the teacher was a 46 year old gay man. I am sure the punishment will be different.
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Old 01-16-2017, 09:58 AM
 
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No, not an absolutist. Just speaking in general terms.
Generally a libertarian?
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Old 01-16-2017, 10:14 AM
 
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Another Example Of The Male/Female Double Standard When It Comes To Child Abuse

if the boy was a 13 year old gay boy; the teacher was a 46 year old gay man. I am sure the punishment will be different.
Yes, there are double standards. And It's ok. Because the society is looking at those situations differently. Because there is a difference who is penetrating who.
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Old 01-16-2017, 11:05 AM
 
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My point is that a person who attracted to a female with characteristics of fertility is not a phedophyle.
Did you see what the girl Roman Polanski drugged and raped looked like when she was 13? She actually looked even younger than 13 to me and certainly had no signs of fertility. If you're a Hollywood leftie creep you can be a pedo but pawn it off as art I guess which is the angle some of his supporters tried to take.
Imagine how many young girls he molested and got away with it he just got caught with Geimer.
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Old 01-16-2017, 11:59 AM
 
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Yes, there are double standards. And It's ok. Because the society is looking at those situations differently. Because there is a difference who is penetrating who.
That is your opinion. If a 46 year old middle aged desperate woman touched any of my nephews, she still goes to jail.
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Old 01-16-2017, 12:22 PM
 
Location: Østenfor sol og vestenfor måne
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People calling the woman a pedo should get their facts straight. Pedophilia is sexual attraction towards prepubescent children. 13yo is biologically an adult. While not morally sanctioned in our culture, there is nothing unnatural about that relationship.
I agree that sexual attraction to a 13 year old is not pedophilia and should be regarded differently, socially and legally, from people who get off on toddlers, but it is still a sign of stunted emotional maturity if not malicious intent. Sexual relationships between adults and young teens should still carry a penalty including, but not limited to, pychological evaluation.

A 13 year old may pubescent, but they are neither mentally, nor physically an adult. 13 year old boy weighing in at 100 pounds with a dirt mustache, Dorito breath, skid marks, and a Pokemon collection is not a legitmate sexual partner for someone in their 20s. Anyone in their 20s who finds young teens sexually attractive is demented.

Now I will concede that some emotionally and physically mature people in their mid to later teens can be seen as adults from a biological and psychological perspective while still under the age of consent, but the mere existence of descended testicles or a girl in her first bra does not mean he or she is emotionally ready to have a sexual relationship with an adult. And an adult who does pursue such relationships, however well intended, is essentially commiting the equivalent of having sex with a drunk, drugged, or otherwise mentally impaired person.
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