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I hope someone already pointed this out, but this was not a march against Trump. It was a march in favor of many things Trump is against... like equal rights for all. I don't understand how any woman could vote for him. I really don't. If you don't think women, Muslims, Mexicans, and LGBTQ people should have equal rights, then, no, I guess I don't speak for you.
I was so angered and bewildered by this post that I had to sign up just to respond to it. Would you mind explaining why you left out black people from the sentence I bolded??? Don’t we black people ALSO have a right to equality??? Don’t we ALSO deserve “equal rights”??? Or are liberals like you unaware that black people are pretty much the only ones in America still being subjected to systematic abuse and oppression?
In case you may want to respond by saying “Trump hasn’t talked about black people”, Trump has been constantly pandering to racists using dog-whistle language by singing the praises of the white police who have been terrorizing and brutalizing black people for years. He has even been saying outrageous upside-down nonsense like “the police are the most abused people in America”, a statement designed to shamelessly pander to the main agency of white suppression and oppression of black people by spitting on the suffering of the victims and turning the privileged oppressors themselves into the “victims”. These praise-singing was extremely hurtful and infuriating to black people. Yet somehow, none of this stuff bothered white liberals and anti-Trump Republicans at all. They never said anything about it. They just continued their usual pretentious rhapsodizing about “women, Hispanics and Muslims”.
The amazing irony is that those other American groups actually have virtually nothing to complain about and already enjoy a great deal of social equality in America. Yet, they are the ones that most liberals love to yap about while saying absolutely nothing about the very group of people who are actually truly suffering racial marginalization and oppression. I have been noticing this bizarre and ironic form of group-favoritism and hypocrisy on the part of so-called “liberals” for a long time now.
I heard one of these anti-Trump white female protesters two days ago claiming they were “protesting for justice and equality”. REALLY??? So then where the hell were all these millions of protesters when black people were being subjected to a nation wide campaign of state-sanctioned murder by the racist law enforcement and judicial system over the past couple of years? And where the hell were all these feminist marchers when black women were being subjected to almost daily assaults by racist white cops over the past years? Where were these millions of protesters when these things were happening? Or did “justice and equality” not count when it comes to black people? And, to take another example, why has there not been any protests about the lead spill in Flint which was obviously an intentional attack on the black people who live there? Why is the issue being ignored? Oh that’s right: because it happened to black people, therefore even white liberals don’t want to talk about it.
To appreciate how astonishingly ironic and bizarre that bolded sentence is, let’s take a look at each one of those groups that were mentioned in the sentence (in the order they were mentioned):
- Women (in particular, white women). The truth of course, in spite of feminist rhetoric, is that white women are easily the most privileged and pampered social group in America. They enjoy even more privileges and systemic bias in their favor than white males. In fact, white women are so utterly devoid of anything serious to complain about that feminists have to completely invent and fabricate a lie out of thin air in order to perpetuate a phony victimhood narrative. They constantly peddle the myth of “unequal pay” by dishonestly saying that “a woman is paid 70 cents for every dollar a man is paid.” This is designed to give the false impression that women are being paid less for doing exactly the same work. In reality, the 70% figure is actually the amount that women as a whole make compared to men when you take into consideration the fact that they tend to do different kinds of jobs that are less risky and less technical and do not work as many hours as men do. The “70 cents per dollar” phrase so so dishonest and intentionally misleading and yet they are allowed to get away with it. The media and the entire political establishment even helps white feminists in peddling this dishonesty. That in and of itself is a testament to how privileged they are.
The only thing these feminists may have to complain about with Donald Trump is his promise to the GOP to appoint conservative judges who might overturn Roe v Wade. But Trump is not the only Republican president that has made such promises to his base while campaigning. Why didn’t they carry out these kinds of demonstrations against George Bush after he came into office? Trump has also being very outspoken in favor of protecting women’s health care and supporting the aspect of Planned Parenthood that is specifically for that purpose.
- Muslims. Another of both the left’s and the political establishment’s favorite interest groups. What exactly do American Muslims who are already in the country have to complain about? In what way are they denied “equal rights”? Unlike black people who the media establishment constantly demonizes and denigrates at every opportunity, the crimes and atrocities Muslims commit are constantly covered up and swept under the proverbial rug by both the media and political establishment. (They do the same thing with illegal Hispanic immigrants who are not even US citizens.) Furthermore, does anyone imagine for a second that if members of the black race had been habitually committing terrorists attacks in western countries, that the media and political establishment would be treating black people with the same obsequiousness, pampering and kid-gloves that they treat Arabs? Would they be bending over backwards not to “offend” black people and would they be repeatedly parroting the mantra that “the vast majority of blacks are good people” or that “the terrorists are not really black”? I would really love to know in what way exactly Muslim-Americans are being “denied of equal rights” such that they are included in that sentence while black people are not.
- Mexicans. Much of what I said about Muslims applies to Mexicans as well. In addition, what exactly did Trump say against Mexican-Americans? In what way are Mexican –Americans being “denied of equal rights”? Just because he speaks against illegal immigration does not mean he is speaking against Mexicans specifically. He has repeated many times that illegal immigrants come from many different countries. What has the enforcement of immigration law got to do with being anti-Mexican especially when Trump has repeatedly said nice things about Mexicans and said they are generally good people? And with regards to illegal immigration, where was all this outrage when Haitian immigrants were being viciously thrown off the coasts back into their boats several years ago, and when coastal guards were viciously stabbing a five year old Haitian girl with cattle prods? I mean, where was all this pro-immigration outrage then? This hypocrisy is just amazing.
- LGBTQ. This one is the most astounding of all. The fact that you included this in your sentence is absolute proof that you don’t even really know what you are saying. All you are doing is just parroting talking points and clichés. What in heaven’s name did Donald Trump say against LGBTQ people??? Did you not see the GOP convention where Trump actually CHAMPIONED the rights of gay people and urged Republicans to change their attitudes??? Did you not see his post-election interview with 60-minutes where he said that gay marriage should remain legal??? I mean, what the hell are you talking about??? And, once again, it raises the interesting question of why you included LGBTQ people in that sentence and left out black people. It seems as if most of you liberals are simply using Trump as a lightning rod for all the kinds of issues you guys love to pretentiously play victimhood games about while ignoring the one group of people that are actually being truly victimized in America.
I’m also very curious as to why you liberals did not engage in these very type of gigantic protests against George Bush in 2001 after he was sworn in. Why was there no massive “women’s demonstration” against Bush? After all, he campaigned as the pro-life candidate, didn’t he? And why was there no massive gay-rights demonstration against him after the elections in 2004? After all, he had used gay marriage as a wedge issue to get himself re-elected. And why were the relatively small “not my president” protests against Bush in early 2001 hidden by the news media establishment and not covered by them? Why was Bush protected and even supported by the very same news media establishment that is now assiduously attacking Trump?
I see massive inconsistency and hypocrisy going on here. It seems to me that these campaigns against Donald Trump by the left and the media establishment are being engineered by some powerful people behind the scenes for no reason other than the fact that they see Trump as a threat to their interests because he is anti-establishment as well as anti-outsourcing. These leftist protesters and feminist groups are merely pawns being pushed by these powerful people behind the scenes. The behavior of these women protesters makes absolutely no sense. Donald Trump has being much more openly pro-women’s rights on health care (apart from abortion) and openly pro-gay rights than George Bush ever was. Yet they are carrying out these huge demonstrations against him while they didn’t against Bush. I can’t believe that more people aren’t seeing that these protesters are just puppets of the Wall-street and Washington establishment who see Trump as a threat to them.
Personally, I don’t like either Trump or Clinton. But while Trump has been pandering to racists and majority groups with his words, both Hillary Clinton and her husband have for many years been pandering to racists and majority groups with their ACTIONS and POLICIES in government while pretentiously paying lip service to “progressive” ideals.
^ That was a hard read. Thank you for giving me something more to think about.
Denver's march was overwhelmingly white, but there were some women of color in the crowd, one of whom I stopped and talked to for a few minutes. She was carrying a sign that read something to the effect of "Stop institutional white supremacy." She was a thoughtful and passionate young woman, and I expressed my appreciation to her and her friends being a part of the event. Sadly, I think I noticed her because she stuck out in the mostly melanin-challenged crowd. You're right, of course, inclusivity is more than just a catch-phrase. Thanks again for pointing that out. As a note, though, Kibbie is a lovely woman, and I don't believe the oversight was intentional or malicious.
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Different, not better. I'm a woman and I don't think I'm better, in all ways, than a man. More than some ways, less than others, equal in most.
I am a woman and I agree. Trying to debate which gender is better is the stupidest waste of time. We are all people with varying degrees of talents and flaws.
About the march, we should all be proud of the fact that three million people world-wide could come together for one day of peaceful demonstrations about a whole host of issues that, as individuals, they are concerned about. Though many of Mr. Trump's supporters didn't understand the march, and outright scorn it, that doesn't take anything away from its power to ignite a whole lot of grass-root organizations. All along the march routes there were sign-up places to do just that.
To answer a question in mistersamedi's post--I think the alarm bell that went off for the LGBQT community was Trump inferring that he would appoint an SC judge who would look at the possible repeal.of SSM.
I saw it as a campaign tactic, not a threat, but I am not of that community. I don't think Trump is anti-gay. I don't think he really cares.
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To answer a question in mistersamedi's post--I think the alarm bell that went off for the LGBQT community was Trump inferring that he would appoint an SC judge who would look at the possible repeal.of SSM.
I saw it as a campaign tactic, not a threat, but I am not of that community. I don't think Trump.is anti-gay. I don't think he really cares.
I don't think he cares about a lot of issues one way or the other but through his ignorance he is going to allow others like Paul Ryan to drive the bus off the cliff, so to speak. Mr. Trump does not study any issues in depth and just goes along with whatever he thinks will make him popular with those who voted for him. He will never even attempt to be the president of ALL the people or find a balancing point that will give something to both sides of any given issue. He lies to himself about his own popularity and that was one of the driving forces that made this march mushroom out so quickly.
I don't think he cares about a lot of issues one way or the other but through his ignorance he is going to allow others like Paul Ryan to drive the bus off the cliff, so to speak. Mr. Trump does not study any issues in depth and just goes along with whatever he thinks will make him popular with those who voted for him. He will never even attempt to be the president of ALL the people or find a balancing point that will give something to both sides of any given issue. He lies to himself about his own popularity and that was one of the driving forces that made this march mushroom out so quickly.
No, you are so right. Trump built all of those skyscrapers without any thought to anything. Made millions of dollars without any thought. Employed 23,000 people without any thought.
He beat two establishment groups, R and D career politicians, and almost the entire media to become president, also without any thought.
He just wings it.
You people are legitimately scaring me. Do you put thought into anything, or do you just go with what the media tells you to do?
Ladies, I support your right to protest, but think you are protesting the wrong thing. Protesting against an issue you disagree with makes sense. Protesting against the voters' choice for President does not. Trump won. Period.
Like 43% of other women voters in this country, my vote was cast for Trump.
Women voters aren't a monolithic voting block. We don't line up and vote based on "gender identity". You don't speak for me.
Keep it peaceful today and don't embarrass the rest of us too much with the silly hats and dumb signs, Ok?
110% agree with this. I am baffled as to why there is so much upset over Trump right now... all of it seems so misguided and manufactured.
I would support a demonstration/protest if the reasons behind said demonstration/protest were sound and logical, but it is very clear to me that logic/rational thinking does not factor into the latest protests against Trump. The left has become completely unhinged in this country, unwilling to accept defeat, and doing everything within their power do take down Trump at all costs, even if their reasons for doing do are unclear.
The left has become the party of intolerance (of political differences), bigotry (judging someones character prematurely), and hate (violent protests). If those on the left actually cared about this country (and it is clear they do not), ACCEPT the election results and stop making us look like a banana republic to the rest of the world!
No, you are so right. Trump built all of those skyscrapers without any thought to anything. Made millions of dollars without any thought. Employed 23,000 people without any thought.
He beat two establishment groups, R and D career politicians, and almost the entire media to become president, also without any thought.
He just wings it.
You people are legitimately scaring me. Do you put thought into anything, or do you just go with what the media tells you to do?
You need to keep up; this thread is about the pussyhat march. The issues the woman who were marching care about are the issues Trump doesn't care about. No one doubts that he cares about building skyscrapers to build up his net worth and add to his gold plated world.
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