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Old 02-08-2017, 10:42 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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“As a recently retired 25-year veteran of the U.S. Department of State who served almost eight years as a refugee coordinator throughout the Middle East, Africa, Russia and Cuba, I have seen first-hand the abuses and fraud that permeate the refugee program and know about the entrenched interests that fight every effort to implement much-needed reform. Despite claims of enhanced vetting, the reality is that it is virtually impossible to vet an individual who has no type of an official record, particularly in countries compromised by terrorism. U.S. immigration officials simply rely on the person’s often rehearsed and fabricated ‘testimony.’ I have personally seen this on hundreds of occasions.”

I have seen first-hand the abuse and fraud in the U.S. refugee program - Chicago Tribune

That's her statement not my quotes for copying it.

And it's not just in the terrorist countries, either. She gives an example of Malta and just as we have a problem with Mexicans and Central Americans coming here for work not because of political asylum, she says this, too: "Similarly, the “special” in-country refugee programs in Cuba and Russia continue, although they are laden with fraud and far too often simply admit economic migrants rather than actual refugees."

Frankly, I think we should cut everyone off and investigate the ones already here.
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Old 02-08-2017, 10:43 AM
 
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“As a recently retired 25-year veteran of the U.S. Department of State who served almost eight years as a refugee coordinator throughout the Middle East, Africa, Russia and Cuba, I have seen first-hand the abuses and fraud that permeate the refugee program and know about the entrenched interests that fight every effort to implement much-needed reform. Despite claims of enhanced vetting, the reality is that it is virtually impossible to vet an individual who has no type of an official record, particularly in countries compromised by terrorism. U.S. immigration officials simply rely on the person’s often rehearsed and fabricated ‘testimony.’ I have personally seen this on hundreds of occasions.”

I have seen first-hand the abuse and fraud in the U.S. refugee program - Chicago Tribune

That's her statement not my quotes for copying it.

And it's not just in the terrorist countries, either. She gives an example of Malta and just as we have a problem with Mexicans and Central Americans coming here for work not because of political asylum, she says this, too: "Similarly, the “special” in-country refugee programs in Cuba and Russia continue, although they are laden with fraud and far too often simply admit economic migrants rather than actual refugees."

Frankly, I think we should cut everyone off and investigate the ones already here.


How do you "vet" a refugee from a country that has no US Embassy?
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Old 02-08-2017, 10:46 AM
 
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“As a recently retired 25-year veteran of the U.S. Department of State who served almost eight years as a refugee coordinator throughout the Middle East, Africa, Russia and Cuba, I have seen first-hand the abuses and fraud that permeate the refugee program and know about the entrenched interests that fight every effort to implement much-needed reform. Despite claims of enhanced vetting, the reality is that it is virtually impossible to vet an individual who has no type of an official record, particularly in countries compromised by terrorism. U.S. immigration officials simply rely on the person’s often rehearsed and fabricated ‘testimony.’ I have personally seen this on hundreds of occasions.”

I have seen first-hand the abuse and fraud in the U.S. refugee program - Chicago Tribune

That's her statement not my quotes for copying it.

And it's not just in the terrorist countries, either. She gives an example of Malta and just as we have a problem with Mexicans and Central Americans coming here for work not because of political asylum, she says this, too: "Similarly, the “special” in-country refugee programs in Cuba and Russia continue, although they are laden with fraud and far too often simply admit economic migrants rather than actual refugees."

Frankly, I think we should cut everyone off and investigate the ones already here.
Yes, we all know it... hence why Trump enacted the rules to begin with... if any of the Refugees turned out to be terrorists, the judges and the Democrats will be held accountable...
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Old 02-08-2017, 10:49 AM
 
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How do you "vet" a refugee from a country that has no US Embassy?
really? really? I suggest you look that one up cause embassies are great but not at all required, kind of funny how little so many really know about the greater world and how we operate in it.

I have utilized US services in countries where we have no embassies and it is common enough. furthermore often the nearest is hundreds of miles away and guess what it is no biggie.
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Old 02-08-2017, 10:54 AM
 
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The damn Director of the FBI and CIA said this months and months ago. Lefties are deaf dumb and blind.
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Old 02-08-2017, 11:11 AM
 
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The damn Director of the FBI and CIA said this months and months ago. Lefties are deaf dumb and blind.
Exactly Dbones.
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Old 02-08-2017, 11:13 AM
 
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The damn Director of the FBI and CIA said this months and months ago. Lefties are deaf dumb and blind.
hmm, on the Nordstrom thread you are repeatedly demanding proof.... where is yours? links to both or we have to say you are not meeting the standards you are requiring of others...

come on now. Proof both did what you said or we must conclude your statement in not correct.
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Old 02-08-2017, 11:15 AM
 
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really? really? I suggest you look that one up cause embassies are great but not at all required, kind of funny how little so many really know about the greater world and how we operate in it.

I have utilized US services in countries where we have no embassies and it is common enough. furthermore often the nearest is hundreds of miles away and guess what it is no biggie.

Who does a "refugee" talk to about being rescued if there is no US presence? Do they just get on a plane and show up at a US airport??
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Old 02-08-2017, 11:16 AM
 
Location: Kentucky Bluegrass
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“As a recently retired 25-year veteran of the U.S. Department of State who served almost eight years as a refugee coordinator throughout the Middle East, Africa, Russia and Cuba, I have seen first-hand the abuses and fraud that permeate the refugee program and know about the entrenched interests that fight every effort to implement much-needed reform. Despite claims of enhanced vetting, the reality is that it is virtually impossible to vet an individual who has no type of an official record, particularly in countries compromised by terrorism. U.S. immigration officials simply rely on the person’s often rehearsed and fabricated ‘testimony.’ I have personally seen this on hundreds of occasions.”

I have seen first-hand the abuse and fraud in the U.S. refugee program - Chicago Tribune

That's her statement not my quotes for copying it.

And it's not just in the terrorist countries, either. She gives an example of Malta and just as we have a problem with Mexicans and Central Americans coming here for work not because of political asylum, she says this, too: "Similarly, the “special” in-country refugee programs in Cuba and Russia continue, although they are laden with fraud and far too often simply admit economic migrants rather than actual refugees."

Frankly, I think we should cut everyone off and investigate the ones already here.
I totally agree with you! We have to start somewhere, and that would be a start, and then correct what laws are already in place and start over...making certain that all that are here are working to become American citizens.
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Old 02-08-2017, 11:18 AM
 
Location: Kentucky Bluegrass
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Yes, we all know it... hence why Trump enacted the rules to begin with... if any of the Refugees turned out to be terrorists, the judges and the Democrats will be held accountable...
No we don't all know it, otherwise, there wouldn't be so many people calling him and us haters...etc....

these people don't understand rules and why they were set in place, as far as they are concerned, rules were made to be broken for convenience.
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