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View Poll Results: What do you think?
Legalize nationally 132 57.89%
Ban nationally 20 8.77%
Let states decide; federal government shouldn't interfere 76 33.33%
Voters: 228. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 02-24-2017, 10:57 AM
 
Location: Born & Raised DC > Carolinas > Seattle > Denver
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18,000 jobs created in Colorado in the legal marijuana industry. $45M in tax revenue went to Colorado public schools last year. Both pretty good reasons that support legalization.

Also, the people of Colorado voted in favor of it. But "big government" (Trump) wants to come in and override state laws. I thought conservatives hated big government?

And doesn't Trump have a $20B wall to pay for? Do tax payers really want tens of millions of money spent busting people on small amounts of pot possession? Doesn't Trump/the United States have bigger fish to fry????
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Old 02-24-2017, 10:58 AM
 
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I'm for legalize or let states decide
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Old 02-24-2017, 11:00 AM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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This seems rather arbitrary. The only thing that I can think of is that his logic is that marijuana is part of the border problem, and by cracking down on marijuana use, he is addressing the border problem. But in states that have legalized marijuana use, for recreation or for medicinal use, isn't the marijuana carefully tracked? They must track where it is grown/harvested, and maintain quality control records. Which would in the end help put an end to illegal marijuana trade, wouldn't it?
True in Washington state.

I dunno about the other legalized states, but in states where it is illegal to sell pot privately (which is the case in Washington), there has to be a tracking system.

It is generally cheaper to buy pot from an illegal private dealer, so a lot of folks are still doing it. But I expect this to change as the industry matures - for the same reasons that most of us prefer to drink branded (and taxed) booze and not moonshine.

Washington's marijuana law is based on its alcohol law, which mandates that hard liquor be sold by state-approved retailers.

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Old 02-24-2017, 11:01 AM
 
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It's a generational issue, not a left/right issue. A lot of younger people are conservative on most issues but are pro-legalization. Once you look at the facts, it's hard to argue for continued prohibition.
It is also a freedom issue. True freedom also includes the freedom to make bad choices. As long as those choices are not infringing on the freedoms of others. I have a hard time fathoming why anyone would want the government telling them what they can and cannot do with their own bodies.

I could go out right now and get a face tattoo and it would be far more destructive to my life than doing almost any drug, but somehow that is completely legal?
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Old 02-24-2017, 11:04 AM
 
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Washington state made $250 million in marijuana excise taxes, so I voted to let states decide since I think there's more money for Washington this way. I've never even tried it, have no interest, but if they want to give us a quarter of a billion dollars to use it, I say by all means!
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Old 02-24-2017, 11:04 AM
 
Location: Prescott Arizona
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You're full of ****, you know you're full of ****.

Sure people find vice in plenty of things but there's nothing chemically addictive in weed like there is in herion or cocaine.

Also, there's medical benefits to Marijuana that outweigh the benefits of even otc painkillers
I never said I had a problem with people getting high. I could care less. I'm just pointing out that it has addictive properties, and it's habit forming because it's entertaining to watch stoners lose their effing minds on these forums when you tell them that they're drug addicts. I use to do the same **** when I burned every day.
Denial is the gold standard in regards to substance abuse followed by rationalization (well,it's not as bad as heroin)

You're a drug addict

Also, medical marijuana is a joke just like your post peter pot-smoker. Once weed is legalized for recreational use nationally, medical marijuana will be the equivalent of medical booze. (I'm a drunk, so booze makes me feel better for my random ailment)
LMAO

Maybe you should grow up and do something with your life instead of wasting it by smoking the pot kid. This is why you're in the situation you're in. It's because you don't make good decisions.
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Old 02-24-2017, 11:05 AM
 
Location: London
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I thought conservatives hated "big government?" yet they're okay with the feds coming in and overriding state laws that THE PEOPLE voted on?

There are 18,000 jobs in Colorado alone in the legal marijuana industry, over $45 MILLION in tax revenues go straight to colorado public schools.

How can Trump interfering with this system bring ANY good? You really want to waste tens of millions of dollars enforcing federal laws to bust people for petty marijuana possession? DOESN'T TRUMP HAVE A WALL TO PAY FOR? And some of you folks are concerned about people smoking a little pot?!?!

I'd really like to hear some arguments from a conservative on this.
Don't blame conservatives for this. Many of them (especially the libertarian leaning ones) agree that the war on drugs is proving to be a waste of time and money.

The ones still for prohibition are mainly the lobbied politicians (of both the two main parties) and those whose position against it solidified many years ago -- before it started becoming more and more evident that marijuana is not a big deal and that the war on drugs was failing anyway.
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Old 02-24-2017, 11:07 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Gilead
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It is also a freedom issue. True freedom also includes the freedom to make bad choices. As long as those choices are not infringing on the freedoms of others. I have a hard time fathoming why anyone would want the government telling them what they can and cannot do with their own bodies.

I could go out right now and get a face tattoo and it would be far more destructive to my life than doing almost any drug, but somehow that is completely legal?
It wouldn't be if evangelicals had their way. Oklahoma only recently legalized tattoos.

One Oklahoma state representative summed up the Republican view on "personal freedom" better than I've heard it from anybody else. It says "liberty is not doing what you want to do but what you ought to do". So basically true freedom is letting the Baptist church dictate everything you can or cannot do in your personal life. Doesn't sound like freedom to me, but that's what evangelicals think it is.
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Old 02-24-2017, 11:11 AM
 
Location: Massachusetts
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There is no way they are going to do anything. No way do they strip away all the tax revenue and jobs. It's more righteous grandstanding to keep sections of his base happy. Nothing more.
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Old 02-24-2017, 11:13 AM
 
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Default Wow, it must be cozy under that rock.

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Society must be protected from all the gangsters smoking marijuana and carrying out homicides and robberies.

If you think that giving the "gangsters who smoke marijuana" back their monopoly on marijuana distribution and sales is somehow going to reduce their power and proclivity for violence, you may be using a thought method that doesn't include common sense or reality.
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