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Old 03-02-2017, 04:03 PM
 
Location: St. Louis
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All these accusations all over the left side of the media begs the question from me, what's wrong with being friends with Russia? They're not the worst country of the there, I mean, we're friends with Saudi Arabia for crying out loud . The US and Russia we're friends before during the Civil War, the US and UK were enemies until WWI and now both countries are joined at the hip. So what's wrong with being friends with Russia? Who doesn't want us to be friendly with them? The British?
At the moment it's the only things the democrats have to try to hang Trump with.
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Old 03-02-2017, 04:08 PM
 
Location: Some Airport Transit Zone
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wolf in sheep's clothing? People why do you NOT get it? - it is proven they are NOT our friends-- they are friendly or cordial-! but down deep they would STAB us in the back with a sword first time got a chance-- !
You know russian people wrong. If Russians want to stab someone they would do it in front of them. Never in the back.
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Old 03-02-2017, 04:11 PM
 
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The Russian and British Royal Families were closely related, however there was often an unease in relation to Russia and it's intentions and after the revolution relations were even more strained.

Picture Link - Tsar Nicholas II and family visit the Isle of Wight | History Today


Russian Tsar Nicholas II and Tsarina Alexandra with their four daughters (Romanov Collection) visit Osborne House on the Isle of Wight in 1909. The Tsar's wife Tsarina Alexandra (Alexandra Feodorovna (Alix of Hesse)) Empress consort of Russia was one of Queen Victoria's Grandchildren, as was Kaiser Wilhelm II and Queen Victoria was related to many of the Royal Houses of Europe. Sadly the First World War saw British and Russian Cousins on the same side, and fighting their German Cousin Kaiser Wilhelm II. The execution of the Russian Royal during the subsequent Russian Revolution was never fully forgiven by their British Cousins.

Alexandra Feodorovna (Alix of Hesse)

The Family Relationships that Couldn't Stop World War I | Brookings Institution

The last emperors | Life and style | The Guardian

Picture Link - King George V and his physically similar cousin Tsar Nicholas II in German military uniforms in Berlin, 1913

All of European aristocracy were related. Yeah, that includes when all their kingdoms or countries went to war with one another.

Your posts are basically ignorant and on par with a 12 year-old Confederate loving child from Alabama who proclaims to be so knowledgeable about other countries.

If you don't like the Russians feel free to go over there with a gun and kill them.
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Old 03-02-2017, 04:29 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Nice try. The investigations haven't even begun yet, and you are declaring the results. Come back in a month and let's talk again.
You mean they haven't officially begun, but they have been "investigating" for months. They have come up with 'squat.'

Now we learn that Clair McCaskill lied, saying there was no reason for any member of the Armed Services Committee to speak meet with any Russian Ambassador. Yet she met with the Russian Ambassador twice, in 2013 and 2015. She's bought and paid for by George Soros, and part of the "swamp" that is trying to get Trump removed from office.

The more we learn, the more we find out just how corrupt the Democrats are, and how phony this entire "investigation" into a "Russian Connection" is.
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Old 03-02-2017, 04:34 PM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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You know russian people wrong. If Russians want to stab someone they would do it in front of them. Never in the back.
True but in the dark alley... there are wonderful people in Russia. It's not the people. It's the dang heads of state!
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Old 03-02-2017, 04:47 PM
 
Location: Midwest City, Oklahoma
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Russia doesn't roll over and let America do whatever it wants, so its bad.

Remember when we hated France? Same basic thing.


Also, Russia is trying to hold or expand its influence in regions where America has been the dominant power, or where America wants to be the dominant power.


In short, the Russians are cutting in on our action. The same thing goes for China. But China's influence in East Asia isn't nearly as threatening as Russia's influence in the Middle-East and Europe.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeZ3nCXyb_Q
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Old 03-02-2017, 04:47 PM
 
Location: Some Airport Transit Zone
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We can't accept any demise of NATO because Russia does not like NATO... One would do well to ask, Why has Russia NOT made effort and modification in their national ideology and Joined NATO? If they want to be a Global Diplomatic Player and Seek the Same Peace that NATO is designed to support and Keep, then Why has Russia taken such an oppositional stance against Joining NATO?

Can anyone answer that question with a reasonable response?
First of all, there is nothing wrong with the Russian national ideology. Its doesn't contain any threat to anybody. It is bad only in the western media reports, but it is not bad at all in reality. Russia just refused to join globalists' NWO agenda and wants to keep ther own unique culture, traditions etc. That's why Russia is bad. France, Germany, Sweden etc. modificated their national ideology and now we can see the sad result of it. But they are good, unlike Russia.
Second of all, NATO is NOT a peacekeeping organisation. You want to tell us as if NATO is a legitimate organisation. Didn't you know NATO is used for American rulers (bankers, elitists etc.) to control the world and eliminate independent states with some plausible pretext? NATO is the global terrorist alliance nowadays that illegally ruined many countries (Yugoslavia, Lybia, Afghanistan, Iraq etc.). NATO serves interests of the military-industrial complex, not the people. NATO needs to go! It is a cold war relict that no longer has a valid reason to exist. The only reason it is still going is that so many people who work for NATO don't want the gravy train to end, so they are desperately trying to start the new cold war to justify NATO's existance. They need a good boogeyman, and Russia is a perfect specimen for it.
Even many former NATO soldiers say that NATO should be dismantled. And I will copy and paste the comment of one former NATO soldier for you :
"I'm American , and also European Caucasian. I spent my best years with NATO.
Don't fall prey of the propaganda. NATO is right now out of that chain of command and control that used to be.
While I love America unquestionably I can tell you this.
NATO is by far the biggest bunch of gangsters and degenerates that we as westerners have. They have run black ops allover Iran (12 years ago ) and failed miserably. NATO has trained more Jihadis than any Muslim country ever has. NATO is directly responsible for the mess in Syria and in Libya.
Our leaders have lost their ****ing minds and I don't think they use reason anymore."


So why should Russia participate in this group satanism?
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Old 03-02-2017, 04:52 PM
 
Location: Some Airport Transit Zone
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True but in the dark alley... there are wonderful people in Russia. It's not the people. It's the dang heads of state!
Can you please provide us with an example of such behavior of these "dang heads" of state?
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Old 03-02-2017, 05:09 PM
 
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Yes, they are all valid points to make.

But let's not pretend that we're innocent in all of this. We have been doing similar things to Russia. We've had spies ejected from Russia, we've encircled them, we've destabilized neighbouring countries, we've attempted to covertly influence their internal politics, etc.
.... and what's even worse - the US (with Clintons at the helm back then) were trying to use Russia's weakness when it was going through the difficult transformation in post Soviet times, hoping that in the long run it will turn into your typical third world country and will break apart. Instead of fulfillment of their plans, they've got Putin at the helm of Russia. Which, of course, didn't let them sleep well, so they kept on pushing for all kind of "punishments" for Russia, since frustrated that their own plans of finishing Russia off, miserably failed. Can Putin's Russia be trusted now? Probably not. But in the eyes of Russians the US can't be trusted now either.


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Much of the media outrage towards Russia has been manufactured, and highly hypocritical.
"Hypocritical" is a good word here.
But of course the show must go on, unfortunately so..
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Old 03-02-2017, 05:21 PM
 
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Exactly.

This is the Russian mentality. This was shown on national television:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T65SwzHAbes
This is not "Russian mentality" Ariete - this is a typical example of Putin's propaganda machine, shrewdly combining truth with fiction.
And why wouldn't it, when Americans handed wonderful cards for Putin and Co to play with?
Of course Russian would agree with "we don't need your Western democracy," because the kind of "democracy" Clintons brought over there was total destruction of the welfare state.
If American democrats would have destroyed European welfare state, I'd like to see how YOU over there would like this "democracy."
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