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Old 03-15-2017, 05:34 PM
 
Location: Long Island, N.Y.
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Actually opioid addiction got started because Purdue Pharma started marketing them to doctors as non-addictive. Got that? Non-addictive. So doctors were prescribing them like candy. And people were getting them for every ache and pain and soon they were being passed around high schools. Once it became clear that Oxycontin was the complete opposite of "non-addictive", they pulled back, but the addiction had already taken root and desperately addicted people started looking for alternatives. This was started by legally prescribed medication that grew at an extreme rate of speed.

"On the strength of that promise, OxyContin became America’s bestselling painkiller, and Purdue reaped $31 billion in revenue.

But OxyContin’s stunning success masked a fundamental problem: The drug wears off hours early in many people, a Los Angeles Times investigation found. OxyContin is a chemical cousin of heroin, and when it doesn’t last, patients can experience excruciating symptoms of withdrawal, including an intense craving for the drug."


'You want a description of hell?' OxyContin's 12-hour problem #InvestigatingOxy - Los Angeles Times

How the American opiate epidemic was started by one pharmaceutical company

https://www.drugwatch.com/2015/12/07...tin-addiction/

Judge unseals records from Kentucky's OxyContin lawsuit

City devastated by OxyContin use sues Purdue Pharma, claims drugmaker put profits over citizens' welfare - LA Times
Hell yeah! It is disgusting that these highly addictive "solutions to pain" are even a THING!

As I understand, these potent drugs were developed for terminal patients...that's great.

First abused, now prescribed for "pain".

Now, on the street. SICK!

It's Heroine, period! It will steal your soul if taken for a buzz!
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Old 03-15-2017, 05:36 PM
 
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For those who are really in pain those drugs should be available, would you rather be in pain or have no pain at all but be hooked on oxy?
I'd rather be "hooked" in moderation to a light opiate which is really no different than being hooked on coffee or a few drinks or too many tylenol. In fact, tylenol is probably the most dangerous of the bunch.

Hopelessness, loneliness, depression, etc. is a large part of the opiate disease and is why Americans consume 80% of the world's pain killers. It turns out that many opiates do a great job on pain but also mellow out the mind somewhat (anxiety, etc.).

Many articles have been written about the places where these epidemics took hold first and why....not to say they will skip over more enlightened locales, but there is something to the stats which show rising suicide among middle age women and men.

I have my own theories on all of this - mostly tied into how we have become a "product" centered (consumer) society as opposed to one centered on human beings. We are basically a "corporate state" and, as I mentioned, profits are profits. I'm sure you could sit down with each of these parties from the mexican drug dealer to purdue pharma to the patient themselves and they would all put forward a moral argument for the good they are doing...of, at the minimum, make it clear they are simply filling - not creating - the need for a product.
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Old 03-15-2017, 05:48 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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This is such an unbelievable crisis and I can't think of another way than to start created rehabilitation centers and making the medication that stops it available everywhere.

It's mute testimony to the opioid addiction plague that has been ravaging Ohio — a 20-foot-long air conditioned trailer with room for 18 bodies.

The Stark County coroner in Canton had a "cold storage mass casualty trailer" trucked-in on Saturday because the morgue was overflowing with bodies, nearly half of them victims of drug overdoses.


Too Many Bodies in Ohio Morgue, so Coroner Gets Death Trailer - NBC News

Darwin always finds a way.
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Old 03-15-2017, 05:48 PM
 
Location: Fredericktown,Ohio
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Hopelessness, loneliness, depression, etc. is a large part of the opiate disease and is why Americans consume 80% of the world's pain killers. It turns out that many opiates do a great job on pain but also mellow out the mind somewhat (anxiety, etc.).
You are so right about that. I have never abused opiates but when I was injured they did take care of pain and does mellow you out. I was cut off of pain killers two weeks before I should have because the doctor refused to write a script and did I suffer.
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Old 03-15-2017, 05:51 PM
 
Location: Out in the Badlands
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Darwin
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Old 03-15-2017, 05:51 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Hell yeah! It is disgusting that these highly addictive "solutions to pain" are even a THING!

As I understand, these potent drugs were developed for terminal patients...that's great.

First abused, now prescribed for "pain".

Now, on the street. SICK!

It's Heroine, period! It will steal your soul if taken for a buzz!
The rise of heroin addiction stems from heroin being much cheaper on the street than the prescription drugs.
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Old 03-15-2017, 06:05 PM
 
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This is such an unbelievable crisis and I can't think of another way than to start created rehabilitation centers and making the medication that stops it available everywhere.

It's mute testimony to the opioid addiction plague that has been ravaging Ohio — a 20-foot-long air conditioned trailer with room for 18 bodies.

The Stark County coroner in Canton had a "cold storage mass casualty trailer" trucked-in on Saturday because the morgue was overflowing with bodies, nearly half of them victims of drug overdoses.


Too Many Bodies in Ohio Morgue, so Coroner Gets Death Trailer - NBC News
We need to build the wall and secure the southern border.

Most heroin in U.S. now comes across Mexican border, Rob Portman says

Most heroin in U.S. now comes across Mexican border, Rob Portman says | PolitiFact Ohio

https://www.therecoveryvillage.com/d...drugs-america/

Of the drugs that are entering the United States from outside native territories, most are coming from Central and South America. The majority of drugs that come from other nations into the US do so via Mexico.

The heroin supply in America is mainly derived from South America and Mexico.

https://www.therecoveryvillage.com/d...y-the-numbers/

Most of the illicit drugs come into the United States across the vast 2,000-mile land border between the US and Mexico, called the Southwestern border or SWB. Drug cartels in Mexico utilize drug mules, tunnels, boats, vehicles, trains, aircrafts, donkeys, and couriers to get illegal drugs into America. Mexican drug cartels make an estimated $19-$29 billion a year on drug sales in the United States.
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Old 03-15-2017, 06:26 PM
 
Location: Long Island, N.Y.
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The rise of heroin addiction stems from heroin being much cheaper on the street than the prescription drugs.
Kids, and grown ups, need to understand that humans have enjoyed libations since recorded time.

You must pick your poison moderately. From benign caffeine, overloaded sugar consumption, there are so many stimulants us Humans have concocted, to just get by. A joint, and some beers, are WAY better than that Opium CRAP!

Any drug derived from opium is pure evil, unless for the terminal...sign me up if need be, though!
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Old 03-15-2017, 06:31 PM
 
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We need to build the wall and secure the southern border.

Most heroin in U.S. now comes across Mexican border, Rob Portman says

Most heroin in U.S. now comes across Mexican border, Rob Portman says | PolitiFact Ohio

https://www.therecoveryvillage.com/d...drugs-america/

Of the drugs that are entering the United States from outside native territories, most are coming from Central and South America. The majority of drugs that come from other nations into the US do so via Mexico.

The heroin supply in America is mainly derived from South America and Mexico.

https://www.therecoveryvillage.com/d...y-the-numbers/

Most of the illicit drugs come into the United States across the vast 2,000-mile land border between the US and Mexico, called the Southwestern border or SWB. Drug cartels in Mexico utilize drug mules, tunnels, boats, vehicles, trains, aircrafts, donkeys, and couriers to get illegal drugs into America. Mexican drug cartels make an estimated $19-$29 billion a year on drug sales in the United States.
The cash cow is marijuana. Meanwhile in 2016 the coast guard had a record year stopping cocaine smuggling and trump wants to severely slash their budget. Build a wall but take the locks off the back door. Brilliant.
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Old 03-15-2017, 06:53 PM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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We need to build the wall and secure the southern border.

Most heroin in U.S. now comes across Mexican border, Rob Portman says

Most heroin in U.S. now comes across Mexican border, Rob Portman says | PolitiFact Ohio

https://www.therecoveryvillage.com/d...drugs-america/

Of the drugs that are entering the United States from outside native territories, most are coming from Central and South America. The majority of drugs that come from other nations into the US do so via Mexico.

The heroin supply in America is mainly derived from South America and Mexico.

https://www.therecoveryvillage.com/d...y-the-numbers/

Most of the illicit drugs come into the United States across the vast 2,000-mile land border between the US and Mexico, called the Southwestern border or SWB. Drug cartels in Mexico utilize drug mules, tunnels, boats, vehicles, trains, aircrafts, donkeys, and couriers to get illegal drugs into America. Mexican drug cartels make an estimated $19-$29 billion a year on drug sales in the United States.
Heroin is bad. Fentanyl. Worse but I hope the addicts do not start turning to krokodil, if their market dries up...
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