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Old 03-19-2017, 06:52 PM
 
Location: E ND & NW MN
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America has always been great!Always.
yes very true. But for those to make American Great Again, it doesnt conform to their ideas of racial and religious demographics. So they have to spout that them, thinking the white male will once again take over.
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Old 03-19-2017, 07:05 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Something every admin does/did...including your guy.

There's such a lack of specifics of what Trump himself actually did to reduce the debt the article may well have been written by Donny himself. Maybe we should talk about what we know the specifics of like Trump adopting the 'one China' policy and coincidentally gaining trademark approval in China? Did every admin do that?


BTW, the only 'guy' I had was basically an unknown, Jim Webb, the only declared candidate I thought enough of to vote for.
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Old 03-19-2017, 07:05 PM
 
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Debt and Deficit only count when a Republican is the President.
When a Democrat/Leftist is the President it's all "yawn" & "shrug".

The Leftists are now talking about "shutting down the government" ..... and that is considered a "great thing to do" - as opposed to when they were arguing about the Debt Ceiling when the Big O was President.

On the UP SIDE -- IF the Leftists shut down the Government while a Republican is President - Parks will still be open, Memorials will still be open, the White House tours will still be open, Park Highways will still be open. the Memorial Flights will still happen ...... I suspect that Federal Employees will NOT be able to Double Dip & collect Food Stamp and Unemployment Insurance and that Protest Groups will not be able to take over the National Mall while disabled Veterans are barred from the National Mall & Memorials.

The Leftist Media will Crucify the Republican President while they used to PRAISE the Democrat/Leftist President. It's the reality they live in and believe in. All Republicans/Conservative are BAD-BAD-BAD
And all Democrats/Leftists are always GOOD-GOOD-GOOD.
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Old 03-19-2017, 07:09 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Debt and Deficit only count when a Republican is the President.
When a Democrat/Leftist is the President it's all "yawn" & "shrug".

Not according to Cheney who told us "Reagan proved deficits don't matter"
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Old 03-19-2017, 07:13 PM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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They're apparently expanding into creative partisan accounting.



Have to take that up with the Treasury Department.


https://idverify.irs.gov/NP/debt/sea...Day=12&endYear=
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Old 03-19-2017, 07:16 PM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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Did Congress pass some Trump budget that we don't know about?
From where I sit, there are no signatures. Only proposals. I actually think, the govt might shut down again in April.. Heads are rolling, people lying, others leaking, and many positions not filled... Maybe where he saving the $$$- the unemployed under -T -
or is it really true, there is a alternative universe.
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Old 03-19-2017, 07:17 PM
 
Location: Pacific NW
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America has always been great!Always.
So why wasn't Michelle proud of America until her husband was elected? Why did they need to 're write our history' if it was so great?
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Old 03-19-2017, 07:18 PM
 
Location: Canada
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Maybe it was not Trump's doing but I highly doubt word of a surplus or even a reduction in debt would have seen the light of day under Obama. You wonder how billions of dollars simply disappeared during his presidency?
LOL.. Amnesia has struct once again. Forgot all about Market Crash of 2008, eh? what else is new

Market level dropped to below 7000 before stimulus was started by G.W. Bush prior to election of Obama.. but jobs were dropping unprecedented by hundreds of thousands monthly, in the initial stages of 2009-2010.... BUT of course Trump claims he's inherited the worst economy ever in American history. Another Bold faced lame excuse for his failures!

How about Obama inherited 2 wars and American's wanted out of them in huge %'s ... Congress GOP side blocked EVERYTHING including elevation of Debt ceiling..causing shutdowns then allowing "Sequestration Measure" cutting a lot of funding to hurt BOTH sides of the aisle" .. But of course.. The blockade tribe> blames Obama.. SO those re-writers of history claim the economy is worse is based on NOTHING more than BS.

I know I don't live inside US borders.. but do live within 70 miles of border crossing.. am widow of a War vet ..so know exactly what goes on less than 100 miles from you all! BS with your fellow cult followers.. BUT the World view of a lot of the Alt-Facts being spewed is actually transparent to us!

At this point it doesn't matter if preachers of alternative Facts is done by PAID bloggers, duped voters or just indoctrinated haters of Liberals views. Such extremes will denigrate standing of USA.. and credibility basically has evaporated. Back when Obama was trying to turn the view initially in his Administrations.. Folks spent so much time claiming " Appeasement Tour" by Obama. Instead of appeasement.. it was actually acknowledging to the world... that there was a lot of disappointment and distrust created by previous administration.

It's far to easy to paint pictures with Alternative facts.. then it is to see reality .. Some wear blinders and others stick fingers in their ears.. and others never bother listening to anything but their indoctrinators. I feel sorry for you.. however, to dismiss and deny words and actions that directly affect other Countries as ignorant, none of your business attitudes.. scream to those who use to count on or respected USA!

Fortunately, Trump and his ilk ( Bannon/Sessions/Page/Ross.... very long list) will be held accountable by MSM and outside media and World leaders never mind opposition party! ... and IF Trump thinks rigging the Courts will turn out well.. Best remember.. Truth eventually will win out in the end..tho a lot of innocent victims of such will suffer!
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Old 03-19-2017, 08:00 PM
 
Location: Vallejo
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Maybe it was not Trump's doing but I highly doubt word of a surplus or even a reduction in debt would have seen the light of day under Obama. You wonder how billions of dollars simply disappeared during his presidency?
You mean like happened in January, April, and September of 2016 under Obama? Or January 2017 which was mostly under Obama unless you think Trump really did that much in his first 10 days? Those monthly numbers don't really say anything whatsoever though as money doesn't come in equally. February is always a bad month if just looking at monthly numbers so it's not surprising much more was spent this February than came in.

We'll just have to wait to see how much influence Trump can actually have on both the budget side and tax side. His budget proposal obviously isn't popular with a lot of people but I'd get behind the spending cuts if they were being made for a reason other than just shifting from non-defense to defense. That really doesn't help anything. The problem is the budget is flat out too large. Taking a dollar here and spending it there, whatever. Budget is still flat out too large. How much squawking is happening over a measly $50 billion in non-defense cuts, less than 10% of the projected FY2017 budget deficit which is only going to grow larger in future years, kind of gives an indication of the problem. Cutting $50 billion from non-defense, another $50 billion from defense would be a decent starting place and actually at least moving towards the balanced budget Trump campaigned on. But like the wall that Mexico is going to pay for and locking up Hillary, we all know that's just another empty campaign promise.
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Old 03-19-2017, 08:35 PM
 
Location: Pixley
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Still Winning.

Trump demonstrates that he is friend to taxpayer. Yuge difference from tax & spend Obama.

In First 2 Months in Office: Trump Reduced Debt by $100 Billion - Obama Increased Debt by $400 Billion
You do realize that we are still operating under the fiscal budget passed by the previous congress and signed by the previous president, right?
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