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A similar story played out with a neighboring family.
My neighbor got breast cancer before Obamacare, about 2005 or there abouts.
They sold their boat, a car and then lost the house. I live in a relatively wealthy area. They had made the house bigger to foster kids. She lost coverage, could not get new coverage and in the end they just went broke keeping her alive.
Obamacare ended that , and this ad clearly shows what we are going to be heading back to with Trumpcare.
Neither side is going to address the cost issue, but I will say having some health issues myself that the health-care is much better in most Republican states then Democratic ones.
The Democrats just pander to their base with emotional commercials. Emotion doesn't pay the bills though.
The health-care system is falling apart in blue states because the hospitals are unionized with $85 an hour nurses in a certain West Coast state, they thought the ACA would last forever so they went on huge construction sprees and they hired lots and lots of administration.
The Democrats won't say why for example that a day in the hospital is $3,300 in California and $1,200 in Republican South Dakota.
I think the exchanges were a good especially if the federal government allocates funds to run their own exchanges.
I don't see why the Democrats are against traditional Medicaid match rates of 50% to 75% though depending on the state as opposed to 95% federal match.
They need to start addressing all the massive amounts of waste, huge compensation packages $85+ in certain cities for nurses, unhealthy lifestyles of many Americans and infections in filthy urban hospitals that drive up healthcare costs.
In Ohio you have just two choices Molina or US Health our premium has doubled since last year and they are getting rich at the expense of the taxpayer!
Crappy plan but its better than having to pay the fine some choice.I should be able to go 15 minutes up the road to a insurance company purchase a plan through them or be able to go across the river to Kentucky or even have a government Health care savings account if they were really serious about it but the DemoncRats didn't allow the Repub's in the debate and put a poorly conceived law into effect without even reading it!
It is very much true that democratic states mostly have higher costs, but then our housing costs more, are wages are higher and thus costs are simply much higher.
Maybe we will start to see healthcare tourism to low cost red states? It would not be a bad thing, bring revs to red states and reduce costs on the donor blue states..
Ignoring the ACA and Trumpcare, getting costs under control is vital , currently costs run over 9k pa per capita. compared to the UK and other high quality systems costing from 3.5 to 6K for full coverage for everyone...
Neither side is going to address the cost issue, but I will say having some health issues myself that the health-care is much better in most Republican states then Democratic ones.
The Democrats just pander to their base with emotional commercials. Emotion doesn't pay the bills though.
The health-care system is falling apart in blue states because the hospitals are unionized with $85 an hour nurses in a certain West Coast state, they thought the ACA would last forever so they went on huge construction sprees and they hired lots and lots of administration.
The Democrats won't say why for example that a day in the hospital is $3,300 in California and $1,200 in Republican South Dakota.
I think the exchanges were a good especially if the federal government allocates funds to run their own exchanges.
I don't see why the Democrats are against traditional Medicaid match rates of 50% to 75% though depending on the state as opposed to 95% federal match.
They need to start addressing all the massive amounts of waste, huge compensation packages $85+ in certain cities for nurses, unhealthy lifestyles of many Americans and infections in filthy urban hospitals that drive up healthcare costs.
The Democrats just pander to their base with emotional commercials. Emotion doesn't pay the bills though.
The health-care system is falling apart in blue states because the hospitals are unionized with $85 an hour nurses in a certain West Coast state, they thought the ACA would last forever so they went on huge construction sprees and they hired lots and lots of administration.
The Democrats won't say why for example that a day in the hospital is $3,300 in California and $1,200 in Republican South Dakota.
I can verify that what you say is absolutely true. My mom spent just 8 days in the hospital in 2012, had no surgery, just tests and drugs for pain... the bill was $87,000 - they sent her to a hospice on the 8th day, she died the next day.
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Not true.
It's easy to find a cite that supports the version of reality you wish to be true. Until you actually live in CA and deal with the medical system, you won't have a clue about the truth.
Check Tyler TX, a little city of less than 300k, which has some of the best medical facilities in the country, and reasonable costs.
A similar story played out with a neighboring family.
My neighbor got breast cancer before Obamacare, about 2005 or there abouts.
They sold their boat, a car and then lost the house. I live in a relatively wealthy area. They had made the house bigger to foster kids. She lost coverage, could not get new coverage and in the end they just went broke keeping her alive.
Obamacare ended that , and this ad clearly shows what we are going to be heading back to with Trumpcare.
Great ad because that will actually be happening if Trump gets his way. And the fact they don't have to say a word says it all.
It is very much true that democratic states mostly have higher costs, but then our housing costs more, are wages are higher and thus costs are simply much higher.
Maybe we will start to see healthcare tourism to low cost red states? It would not be a bad thing, bring revs to red states and reduce costs on the donor blue states..
Ignoring the ACA and Trumpcare, getting costs under control is vital , currently costs run over 9k pa per capita. compared to the UK and other high quality systems costing from 3.5 to 6K for full coverage for everyone...
But, Americans are eating, drinking and drugging themselves in massive quanities to a massive health crisis.
There is also the massive amount of baby boomers that will be aging into their 70s and 80s very quickly.
I think with-in a decade there will be a huge health crisis that will put huge upward cost pressure on the health system not less. If American's think health insurance rates are high now just wait another decade.
But, Americans are eating, drinking and drugging themselves in massive quanities to a massive health crisis.
There is also the massive amount of baby boomers that will be aging into their 70s and 80s very quickly.
I think with-in a decade there will be a huge health crisis that will put huge upward cost pressure on the health system not less. If American's think health insurance rates are high now just wait another decade.
getting costs under control has little to do with ACA or Trumpcare. those costs can be fixed either way. It is a massive flopping red herring thrown out to distract.
Insurance coverage should be a right. Costs can be controlled by allowing Obamacare, or Trumpcare to deal with drug companies. By reducing silly testing. By limiting intervention at end of life. and of course Tort.
But all of that can be done while leaving OBamacare in place!
So lets not get distracted by our stupid cost basis.
Instead let's focus on ensuring 100% of the population has some form of coverage regardless of ability to pay. Just like every single other developed nation on the face of this planet.
Republicans are the only people telling thier supporter that full public healthcare is too costly. Amazingly even countries with tiny pops, and low standards of living can provide Healthcare SECURITY with relative ease.
Maybe we could shift a couple of hundred billion from military security to healthcare security.
I think the advert i posted shows exactly what we can expect to see a lot more of under Trumpcare.
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