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Old 05-10-2017, 12:35 PM
 
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Originally Posted by workingclasshero View Post
they are babies as soon as they have a heartbeat

sorry but 'want' doesn't equal 'need'

a woman has the right to chose to have sex or not....and she has that very CHOICE

a woman has the right to chose to have protected sex or not....and she has that very CHOICE

a woman has the right to chose to have contracepted sex or not....and she has that very CHOICE

a woman has the right to chose to tell the male to put on a 'raincoat' for sex or not....and she has that very CHOICE


the fact remains that IF she gets pregnant she made choices to get there...but she didn't do it alone....and you can darm-skippy bet if she choses to keep it, she will be yelling about child support from the male, who made the baby WITH her

that baby should have a choice...the male should also be part of that choice.....its not JUST her body, but another life form (baby) growing inside her.....



btw I agree with abortion being allowed , just should not be federally funded

I don't think abortion should be the first choice.... many couples out there CAN'T physically have kids...instead of abortion, why not consider adoption

saying yes to sex is not saying yes to pregnancy and parenthood.

yes, the male should be part of the choice. he needs to practice birth control. he needs to take responsibility for his own sperm. millions of men could care less about the results of their sexual activity. birth control never enters into it for them.

a full grown adult woman and her choices in life trump that of her pregnancy if she does not want to remain pregnant. women are not breeders to bear and give away a baby to people who can't have them. there are plenty of foster children in need of homes already. we don't need more.
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Old 05-10-2017, 12:36 PM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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I'm responding only because of your CAPS and underlining. Federal funds through Medicaid do pay for some abortions.


If you feel the need to split that hair, I'm fine with it.
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Old 05-10-2017, 12:38 PM
 
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According to Planned Parenthood, all abortions are funded by the patients - so what would change?
This is about de-funding abortions and re-allocate that $$ to women's health.

So we have people here advocating for PP to keep that money, yet saying there really isn't any $$ going towards abortions at all. and others saying all kinds of crazy things akin to it.

It's a Mad Mad Mad Mad World where.... we all didn't hear what momma actually said
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Old 05-10-2017, 12:41 PM
 
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95% of women on the US who give birth are not in danger

We have hospitals and qualified doctors now so we don't really need to worry about Women's Safety

This isn't the dark ages
Yes, we do need to worry about women's safety.
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Old 05-10-2017, 12:41 PM
 
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saying yes to sex is not saying yes to pregnancy and parenthood
So sexual intercourse isn't the reason people get pregnant aka concieve a living human being inside of them?

You already tried to push this craziness earlier and I asked you this question.

Unless you are developmentally disabled or severely mentally ill, you get no pass

Please stop. Thank you
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Old 05-10-2017, 12:43 PM
 
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You do not CAUSE A PERSON TO BE OR REMAIN PREGNANT
(except in rare cases of rape of course)

It is not WRONG to give your child up for adoption. More broad-brushing

Those that adopt the infant are the REAL PARENTS

Unwanted children need homes. They do not need their arms, legs, ripped off their tiny bodies instead then tossed into the trash. Worse... while possibly, still alive. If that isn't predatory, then nothing is.
if unwanted children needed homes we would not have over 250,000 children every year available for adoption in the us. nor would we have another 150 thousand or so who age out of the foster care system.
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Old 05-10-2017, 12:46 PM
 
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Thrown away where?
Do you mean MURDERED THEN thrown into a trash can?
Yes, how come you are okay with it?
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Old 05-10-2017, 12:48 PM
 
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So sexual intercourse isn't the reason people get pregnant aka concieve a living human being inside of them?

You already tried to push this craziness earlier and I asked you this question.

Unless you are developmentally disabled or severely mentally ill, you get no pass

Please stop. Thank you
I seriously doubt you are this obtuse or you just like to pretend to be so. think past your nose.

yes sex can lead to pregnancy. how a woman conducts her own reproduction is her business. not yours or mine. if she doesn't want to get, be or remain pregnant she has options and abortion is one.

she can have unprotected sex, she can use or not, birth control her life her business.
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Old 05-10-2017, 12:48 PM
 
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Yes, we do need to worry about women's safety.
Again, this money which goes towards abortions is going towards women's health aka safety.

It is being re-allocated so as not to kill women before their birth, but to save them from being dismembered and thrown into the trash. And not just women, but men alike.
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Old 05-10-2017, 12:50 PM
 
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Yes, how come you are okay with it?
Excuse me? Again, you make no sense. Please stop
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