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Everyone paying taxes into a plan that covers everyone is paying for services. Also, they often pooled their resources to the benefit of all in the group.
Is that what they are claiming happened in school nowadays? How could any of us know what cavemen did or didn't do as far as healthcare back then? Get bit by a snake, you died. Get an infection, you died. get injured, you likely died. That was their healthcare back then.
Heck, in wars 200 to 500 years ago, if you were seriously injured the most likely outcome was you died. That was fighting for your country. Even WWI and WWII... many serious injuries meant death for the soldiers.
As far as paid pooling funds go, that is what is commonly known as insurance. The difference from standard insurance is you demand others pay the pooling fees of those who won't or can't. That is THEFT.
Tell me something. By what right do you look at what I earn and demand a portion of it to pay for your healthcare if you aren't paying into that insurance pool from your OWN earnings? I understand being a part of a group that mutually agrees to pool funds, but membership in that group should mean each person pay their share, and those shares should be equally balanced (based on actuarial risk) in order to have equal benefits.
Rights are what we universally decide what rights are. People say it's a right because it's vital and necessary to maintain a basic quality of life. Well, so is food. Food is vital and necessary for a basic quality of life. Heck, food is more important because without food, you are guaranteed to die. So government should provide food for all, right? If healthcare is a right then food has to be too. And what about a house? Houses are vital and necessary to maintain a basic quality of life. And you need a place to store your government food. So houses are a right too. Government houses all around, right?What about clothes? Personal hygiene products? A vehicle should also be a right because a vehicle is necessary to get to the job we are all entitled to and have a right to. Where do you draw the line? So many young people supported Sanders because young minds are easily duped into supporting everything associated with Socialism because they are just starting off in life with little to no assets. Sanders argues to appeal to emotions. Much of his defense of ACA is devoid of reason and hopes instead that the heartstrings of viewers will be tugged by his emotional appeals. His plan is not economically possible. If every person making over a million dollars a year handed every penny they had to the government, then it would only last for just under a year. Being one of the most unhealthiest counties on Earth comes with a heafty price. Socialism sounds great until you run out of other people's money.
Rights are what we universally decide what rights are. People say it's a right because it's vital and necessary to maintain a basic quality of life. Well, so is food. Food is vital and necessary for a basic quality of life. Heck, food is more important because without food, you are guaranteed to die. So government should provide food for all, right? If healthcare is a right then food has to be too. And what about a house? Houses are vital and necessary to maintain a basic quality of life. And you need a place to store your government food. So houses are a right too. Government houses all around, right?What about clothes? Personal hygiene products? A vehicle should also be a right because a vehicle is necessary to get to the job we are all entitled to and have a right to. Where do you draw the line? So many young people supported Sanders because young minds are easily duped into supporting everything associated with Socialism because they are just starting off in life with little to no assets. Sanders argues to appeal to emotions. Much of his defense of ACA is devoid of reason and hopes instead that the heartstrings of viewers will be tugged by his emotional appeals.
Great post. This constant moving of the goal post is a progressive habit that has in part created a lot of the current tension. There never seems to be MOMENT of satisfaction after victory before the posts get moved again ...and again ... and again. The goals always come at great cost to everyone.
While I am sure there are some that sit home and play video games, people like me are going to work every day, working long hours and still making peanuts after 20 years. My wage has been stagnant for years. I got a .30 raise this year. Big whoop. My vision and dental insurance increase sucked that right up.
No one wants to give the working poor health insurance, free food or a higher minimum wage. So you tell me... How can we help those that are the working poor that are supporting our future adults?
How is your lack of improving your lot in life MY fault or responsibility? What else do you think I should be required to pay for so you don't have to pay for it yourself? Can I just decide, screw it I'm not going to work anymore or take some near minimum wage job and you'll pick up my tab?
What makes you think you have ANY right to anything I've earned by MY own hard work, education and effort? Furthermore, since you apparently think you have some right to it, why not drag your sorry butt over here and try to take it from me? At least that way you wouldn't be a worthless coward hiding behind the force of government.
No one has a right to vote to steal the property or earnings (which is property) of another.
James Madison (known as the Father of the Constitution because he wrote most of it) said, "I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents."
That statement by James Madison CLEARLY states that Congress has no authority to tax from one person in order to give benevolence (charity) to another.
Having healthcare is a right. We have to live after all. The reason we don't have healthcare is because the insurance companies are greedy. We need to do away with them and have single payer. Then, all our healthcare would be free.
uhm... singlepayer is still insurance... just the one(single) payer is the government
insurance is and never will be care
insurance is expensive because the CARE is expensive
Having healthcare is a right. We have to live after all. The reason we don't have healthcare is because the insurance companies are greedy. We need to do away with them and have single payer. Then, all our healthcare would be free.
Just wondering how much money you are willing to pay for such coverage or do expect someone else to pay for it? Do you have an extra 10k a gear to pay in taxes so the government can provide bellow adequate health coverage?
How is your lack of improving your lot in life MY fault or responsibility? What else do you think I should be required to pay for so you don't have to pay for it yourself? Can I just decide, screw it I'm not going to work anymore or take some near minimum wage job and you'll pick up my tab?
What makes you think you have ANY right to anything I've earned by MY own hard work, education and effort? Furthermore, since you apparently think you have some right to it, why not drag your sorry butt over here and try to take it from me? At least that way you wouldn't be a worthless coward hiding behind the force of government.
No one has a right to vote to steal the property or earnings (which is property) of another.
James Madison (known as the Father of the Constitution because he wrote most of it) said, "I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents."
That statement by James Madison CLEARLY states that Congress has no authority to tax from one person in order to give benevolence (charity) to another.
Is this post for real?
The poster stated she goes to work long hours everyday and you respond by attacking her?
How is your lack of improving your lot in life MY fault or responsibility? What else do you think I should be required to pay for so you don't have to pay for it yourself? Can I just decide, screw it I'm not going to work anymore or take some near minimum wage job and you'll pick up my tab?
What makes you think you have ANY right to anything I've earned by MY own hard work, education and effort? Furthermore, since you apparently think you have some right to it, why not drag your sorry butt over here and try to take it from me? At least that way you wouldn't be a worthless coward hiding behind the force of government.
No one has a right to vote to steal the property or earnings (which is property) of another.
James Madison (known as the Father of the Constitution because he wrote most of it) said, "I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents."
That statement by James Madison CLEARLY states that Congress has no authority to tax from one person in order to give benevolence (charity) to another.
How do you suggest I improve my lot in life? 10 years ago I made more than twice minimum wage. Now I am very close to minimum wage. Why? Because minimum wage went up in my state, but my salary did not increase. I have tried to buy foreclosures and flip them on the side to help with housing costs. But at this point, I am fresh out of ideas and my body is getting to old and worn out to work this darn hard to get no where.
So far I have tried college courses, obtained profession certificates, taken tests to obtain professional licenses including real estate and insurance.
I have tried small companies, large companies, private sector. I have applied to over 100 government jobs in the last 13 years. I actually have kept track on a spreadsheet.
So by all means, tell me how I can increase my wages. $60-$70k annually would be great.
Rights are what we universally decide what rights are. People say it's a right because it's vital and necessary to maintain a basic quality of life. Well, so is food. Food is vital and necessary for a basic quality of life. Heck, food is more important because without food, you are guaranteed to die. So government should provide food for all, right? If healthcare is a right then food has to be too. And what about a house? Houses are vital and necessary to maintain a basic quality of life. And you need a place to store your government food. So houses are a right too. Government houses all around, right?What about clothes? Personal hygiene products? A vehicle should also be a right because a vehicle is necessary to get to the job we are all entitled to and have a right to. Where do you draw the line? So many young people supported Sanders because young minds are easily duped into supporting everything associated with Socialism because they are just starting off in life with little to no assets. Sanders argues to appeal to emotions. Much of his defense of ACA is devoid of reason and hopes instead that the heartstrings of viewers will be tugged by his emotional appeals. His plan is not economically possible. If every person making over a million dollars a year handed every penny they had to the government, then it would only last for just under a year. Being one of the most unhealthiest counties on Earth comes with a heafty price. Socialism sounds great until you run out of other people's money.
Agreed on the rest, but the first sentence is where a lot of people go off track. Rights are inherent and not dependent on the whims of other people. They are moral statements (like right and wrong), so a right simply describes what you're allowed to rightfully do, meaning it's a "wrong" if anyone tries to violate those rights.
They may choose to violate your rights, but your rights are always the same. For example, you have the right to give your opinion on any issue without punishment. Even if other people decide you don't have that right and use the government to silence you, you still have that right. They are wrong, regardless of what the law says.
Not sure how clearly I explained that, but hopefully it makes sense.
Some may ask where these rights come from, and I'm not sure that's even necessary to answer (although I could get into it, but it's a very long discussion). All you need to do is look at the alternative: If rights are NOT treated as inherent, and they are simply granted to you or revoked by the government, that means the government is essentially God. They can change right and wrong. If they decide you have no rights, and it's okay to kill you, or rape you, or steal from you, or anything else, then it's okay.
I barely make $10,000 a year as it is. Only rich people should pay more taxes and they have more than enough money to pay. Just imagine if we could provide care for everybody. There is no reason people need two homes or many cars or wasteful things.
how is it you barely make over 10k??? less than min wage??? what do you do deliver newspapers??
find a better job that fits your skill set
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Also, they often pooled their resources to the benefit of all in the group.
