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Old 05-10-2017, 12:19 PM
 
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Not a human right but just like any developed, developing or undeveloped country, there should be some system of taxpayer subsidized healthcare system for every citizen of the country. Right now, the spiralling cost of medical treatment and expensive Insurance plans have been a pain to many people.
Transportation is not any basic human right but Government do spend money on airports, ports, light rail, bridges, highways. Same way Government should run Hospitals too.
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Old 05-10-2017, 12:19 PM
 
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I think the rich can pay. I see them wasting money that could be used to give everyone the basics.
I'll ask you again, since you did not answer: how long will the "rich" people continue to work hard for their money, only to have it stolen from them to pay someone else's basics?
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Old 05-10-2017, 12:19 PM
 
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By that argument, how is it not stealing to take MY money to fund various right wing wars?

Right wing, left wing... war in general... There is constitutionally enumerated authority for our federal government to engage in war. I don't care for most of that war, regardless if done by a right winger or a left winger BUT at least they have the constitutional authority to engage in war.

There is no constitutional authority to take from one in order to give benevolence (charity) to another.

James Madison (known as the Father of the Constitution because he wrote most of it) said, "I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents."
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Old 05-10-2017, 12:20 PM
 
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But because we cannot all have high salaries, those that do, should cover the shortfalls for those that can't make big money.
Why on earth should that be the case? You do realize you're advocating theft, don't you?
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Old 05-10-2017, 12:22 PM
 
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By that argument, how is it not stealing to take MY money to fund various right wing wars?
You seriously think this?
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Old 05-10-2017, 12:22 PM
 
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We do need that. It would be easy to go Medicaid for all. There is a lot of money in this country that can pay and we would all have free care.

Nothing (good or service) is free in life. Someone must pay. You just want to sit on your rear demanding someone else pay for your goods and services.
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Old 05-10-2017, 12:25 PM
 
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Your kids will grow up and your expenses will decrease. You'll have the flexibility to move to a more affordable and smaller home.
Oh then 12 years to go. But then my income drops significantly then because of child support ended.
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Old 05-10-2017, 12:25 PM
 
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Your all making guesses about my life. Yes I made bad choices but everyone does. I'm not asking nobody for nothing. I'm just saying that some people need help in this life. God willing I have a few more years left and I would like to be able to enjoy them without having to wurry.
Actually, you are. You are asking the "rich" to pay for your healthcare.

You've made bad choices, the "rich" have made good ones. Why should they be punished, and you rewarded?
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Old 05-10-2017, 12:27 PM
 
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Have you tried applying at the wineries you frequent on the weekends?
Actually yes. Both only owner ran and hire just family. But I have volunteered and worked some of their events.
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Old 05-10-2017, 12:27 PM
 
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I didn't plan my life like this. I started putting on weight when I hurt my back. I'm not asking you to fund me.
Yes, you are. You want "free" healthcare.

For the record, hurting your back does not cause weight gain. I have a very bad back, so I know this.
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