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Old 05-21-2017, 03:43 PM
 
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Yes they have the right to exercise their First Amendment rights but as adults we have learned to tolerate others and listen to their opinions and willingly express our own. One would think they could have expressed themselves in something more productive than walking out of a graduation. Maybe someone could have given a speech rather than something so nonproductive.
Learn to tolerate intolerance?

I hope the Fighting Irish never learn to do that.

 
Old 05-21-2017, 03:44 PM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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I mean, sure at end of the day they have the right to do it. And conservatives might do much the same with certain liberal speakers.

But I personally would have stayed. I do have some sense of respect and decorum when it comes to events like my own school graduation. Listening to what someone says doesn't hurt you or mean you have to agree with it. There are other forms in which I would consider certain displays of protest.
 
Old 05-21-2017, 03:46 PM
 
Location: Northwest Peninsula
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Some Notre Dame students walk out of commencement where Pence to speak

https://www.yahoo.com/news/notre-dam...171211035.html
I have to wonder if they are headed to their 'safe' room.
 
Old 05-21-2017, 03:47 PM
 
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I keep wishing that journalists would do that at one of these fiascos press conferences.
 
Old 05-21-2017, 03:47 PM
 
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Exactly

I have no issue with students who do not want to listen to his speech, though proper decorum dictates they act respectfully. I suspect few will walk out on their own graduation ceremony to protest, especially at a university like ND.
It's already happened. The videos are out. It was a pretty impressive number though I could hardly take a count.

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Rest assured if I were a student graduating, and it was Biden or even Obama giving a speech, I'd respectfully sit there and listen. Those words that are uttered will not harm me, and since they took the time to come and address my graduating class, I'd be respectful and not embarrass my university.
Cool with me.
 
Old 05-21-2017, 03:48 PM
 
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I keep wishing that journalists would do that at one of these fiascos press conferences.
What? And miss out on all the fun?
 
Old 05-21-2017, 03:49 PM
 
Location: New Mexico
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The VP spoke today at the commencement ceremony at Notre Dame and a groups of graduate got up and left to cheers and boos.

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What happened to tolerance, patience and respect?

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What a bunch of rude brats to walk out and not even be able to listen to what may be an opposing view. So much for debate in higher learning.
Notre Dame is still mostly Roman Catholic, something which Pence - the former gov. of IN - knows quite well. He's also likely aware that ND students broke up KKK marches in downtown South Bend (the city next to ND) back in the '20s, when the KKK was a power in the state of IN (the KKK was a statewide party, & I believe held the gov.'s office & a majority of the Legislature @ the time - they managed to shoot themselves in the foot - a widely publicized kidnap/statutory rape case, as I recall. & of course the Klan was dead set against Roman Catholics, Jews, bankers, furriners, Socialists, intellectuals, Modernity, organized labor, literate people in general). One of those set-tos was fairly boisterous - you can look the episode up in your favorite browser.

Yah, VP Pence has shown much more restraint than candidate Trump did, or that Pres. Trump has to date, for that matter. I remember that Trump opened his candidacy by insulting Hispanics, Mexicans, immigrants & so on as rapists, drug dealers, murderers, & then he got nasty. Pence did stand by Trump on the campaign trail, & by his presence essentially endorsed Trump as a good man, & possibly a Christian - he may have said as much explicitly, I don't recall. If Pence did, I'm sure it's on tape somewhere.

& no, the commencement wasn't set up as a debate. It was a chance for Pence to address a kinda captive audience - but ND takes a muscular view of Christianity - & the entire Roman Catholic parochial school system, & the various Roman Catholic universities, colleges & so on in the US were set up because the religious community felt that the US public schools K-12 were aiming to assimilate & acculturate the Catholic children into a WASPish role, & so extinguish Catholicism as a distinct belief system here.
 
Old 05-21-2017, 03:51 PM
 
Location: Northwest Peninsula
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People receive S.S. that never paid into it. Taxes in their very being are Socialist. All pitching in for the good of all.
Not sure that is true, please provide a link to that claim. People also receive a federal tax refund without paying federal taxes....do you think that is right or is that socialism at its finest.

I believe in a hand up not a hand out.
 
Old 05-21-2017, 03:53 PM
 
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"Our members lived in South Bend when Mike Pence was governor," South Bend Equality, a group participating in the event said in a statement. "We know all too well how his policies endangered or caused direct harm to public education, health care, women's rights, the environment, LGBTQ individuals, immigrants and refugees, reproductive rights, local infrastructure, the economy of our state, and more."

Dozens of Notre Dame Students Walk Out of VP Mike Pence Commencement Speech - NBC News
 
Old 05-21-2017, 03:54 PM
 
Location: Northwest Peninsula
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If students walked out on an Obama commencement speech, republicans would be cheering them on.

The students have a right to protest. You don't like it, you are welcome to pack your bags and move to North Korea.
Your moving to North Korea comment is a little over the top and IMO stupid. If anyone should move to NK it should be those who don't want to hear some else point of view. You know like fascist liberals.
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