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Old 06-11-2017, 05:21 PM
 
Location: Coastal Georgia
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I know that Puerto Rican's already gave many advantages that we, in the US, do not have, such as cheap education, and ok medical coverage. They seem to function quite well with everyone just playing music real loud and going to the beach every weekend. What's the up side?

 
Old 06-11-2017, 05:30 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Do you know why that is? Ignoring your despicable "cannon fodder" remark, joining the military is a way for them to get out of poverty.

And, yes, go visit and talk to the locals. Many will tell you that they served in the military. Some of the younger ones will tell you that they recently enlisted. Those who have served, will gladly tell you about all the places they were stationed during their time in the service.
Then why would you want to deny these brave patriots who fought and died for America, statehood?
 
Old 06-11-2017, 05:30 PM
 
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IMHO 1 BIG reason Puerto Rico's getting worried is its birthrate's below replacement AND, word is the island's losing people to the mainland.
 
Old 06-11-2017, 05:33 PM
 
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Amazing how the liberal media isn't covering their new referendum that's happening today in Puerto Rico where they're going to vote AGAIN on statehood. It seems like statehood is becoming more and more popular but if this referendum passes, Congress should NOT allow Puerto Rico to be a state.

- The American flag looks perfect the way it is now

- Puerto Rico is a very left-wing place politically. Allowing them to be a state means that the Democrats will have a permanent advantage in the Electoral College and in Congress as the new Senate and House seats allotted to them will be filled by Democrats. Puerto Rican voters are also susceptible to the Democrats' racial politics and stand in racial solidarity with illegal Mexicans and Central Americans in favor of illegal immigration and things like the Dream Act and illegal alien amnesty.

- This will be adding another non-English speaking area to the U.S. and will undermine efforts to make English the official language of America

- Yes, Puerto Ricans will have to pay federal taxes if they're a state but they are an economic basket case and will receive far more in federal funds than they pay in. It will be a financial black hole for the American taxpayer, a large version of Detroit, Chicago, Newark or the Bronx.

I truly believe this is a ploy by liberals and Democrats to gain and hold power. THey've tried to push for Washington DC to be a state for a long time and have failed and now they want to try with Puerto Rico. Because the left moving Democrat Party can no longer appeal to the average American, they have to resort to these games.

Though I'm open to allowing Puerto Rico to be a state in exchange for New Jersey or California leaving and taking their electoral votes and Congresional representation away.
Word is Puerto Ricans are AGAINST amnesty for any kind of illegal alien, cause illegals hurt PR's a lot if talking jobs and so on.
 
Old 06-11-2017, 05:42 PM
 
Location: Stasis
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The US Virgin Islands should also be allowed to join. With only a 100,000 population, perhaps as part of the New State of Puerto Rico and Virgin Islands.
 
Old 06-11-2017, 05:46 PM
 
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The US Virgin Islands should also be allowed to join. With only a 100,000 population, perhaps as part of the New State of Puerto Rico and Virgin Islands.
Virgin Islands and Puerto Rico as 1 state? I guess it could work.
 
Old 06-11-2017, 05:48 PM
 
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NO! Let them be independent "proud" Puerto Ricans on their own.

This is not in the best interest of the United States. I don't think PR should be allowed to become a state without all of our consent. We should be allowed to vote on whether or not we want PR.

If PR becomes a state, what's to stop all the other U.S territories?

We have to pressure congress to stop this!
 
Old 06-11-2017, 05:50 PM
 
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The US Virgin Islands should also be allowed to join.
No. Are people crazy?

None of those Islands have anything to add to the United States. Colonialism/expansion is wrong, it will be our downfall.
 
Old 06-11-2017, 05:51 PM
 
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NO! Let them be independent "proud" Puerto Ricans on their own.

This is not in the best interest of the United States. I don't think PR should be allowed to become a state without all of our consent. We should be allowed to vote on whether or not we want PR.

If PR becomes a state, what's to stop all the other U.S territories?

We have to pressure congress to stop this!
To be fair: the US doesn't have much land if talking territories in 2017. We cut the Philipines loss after WW 2.
 
Old 06-11-2017, 05:52 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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NO! Let them be independent "proud" Puerto Ricans on their own.

This is not in the best interest of the United States. I don't think PR should be allowed to become a state without all of our consent. We should be allowed to vote on whether or not we want PR.

If PR becomes a state, what's to stop all the other U.S territories?

We have to pressure congress to stop this!
Not sure that many Americans were too happy making New Mexico, Arizona and Oklahoma states either. At the time they were just full of indians, mexicans and outlaws.
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