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I thought it was more of the YOUNG who put him in office as he promised to bring jobs back. Or was it both and from the red color states...
Make no mistake about it, the redneck states are the ones who brought this plague upon us. Because of the ignorance and hatefulness of the majority of their people, they voted for Trump.
Simply make up the difference? That would be great if states could print currency when they need it like the feds do. Where do you think the money will come from? When states don't have it who is going to get medicaid and who isn't? Will it be the frail elderly or severely disabled children? Or maybe we could have a lottery every year and just pick the winners and the losers?
This is what Oklahoma says they will have to do:
Some of the programs and benefits being considered are pharmacy, behavioral health, durable medical equipment, the breast and cervical cancer treatment program, the waiver-funded Medically Fragile program and Program of All-inclusive Care for the Elderly, private duty nursing services, adult organ transplants, dialysis, hospice services, physical and occupational therapy, and speech, hearing and language disorder services.Drastic cuts could be coming for Medicaid patients in Oklahoma | KFOR.com
Oklahoma is already in a budget crisis and struggling to fund schools.
"Class sizes have ballooned, art and foreign-language programs have shrunk or disappeared, and with no money for new textbooks, children go without. Perhaps the most significant consequence: Students in scores of districts are now going to school just four days a week."
Well for one thing people, as you say baby boomers, who are entering nursing home in their later stage of life are more likely to be on Medicare not medicaid. So what you are espousing to is nothing but a liberal ploy at fear mongering.
FYI information more people lost their retirement monies at the end of the Clinton administration due to retirement investments in the so-called 'Dot.com' era and lost a ton of retirement money when the bubble busting from 1999 to 2000.
Medicare doesn't pay for extended nursing home care.
Perhaps these nursing homes could reduce their prices and/or run their operations as a charity instead of getting the government to rob their patients' grandchildren to pay for them to stay in their warehouse where they rot to death.
And perhaps pigs could fly. Or here's a better idea, YOU should operate your YOUR livelihood as a charity. Because you are essentially asking these facilities to donate their services for free. Who will pay the worker's salaries--will they come from donations? Would you work for whatever happens to be in the donation basket that week, even if it isn't enough to pay your bills? No, of course you wouldn't, but you expect caregivers to do exactly that.
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Given the substantial Social Security checks that could be surrendered as well as the great outpouring of sentiment in favor of aiding indigent elders we see in this thread, I'm sure they would manage - that is, if the whiners in this thread actually cared about the indigent elderly.
Substantial Social Security checks? Do you know the average monthly SS benefit is $1,341? Meanwhile, the average cost of one month in a nursing home is $6,844. You truly are clueless.
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Just think, people - indigent elders were not killed or thrown out on the street before Medicaid was created, and plenty of treatment options existed for them beforehand. Since that was 50 years ago, I'm sure that the power of innovation and all the technology and technique we've accumulated since then would enable us to do much better.
Many people simply did not go to see a doctor because they knew they couldn't afford it. Thus, they most likely did die of treatable, preventable conditions.
"Many people in the U.S. prior to 1965 had very limited access to medical care," said Ronald Andersen, an emeritus professor of health services and sociology at the UCLA School of Public Health who has studied this data since the 1960s and provided the data to us. "This situation improved considerably after the implementation of Medicare and Medicaid."
Oklahoma is already in a budget crisis and struggling to fund schools.
"Class sizes have ballooned, art and foreign-language programs have shrunk or disappeared, and with no money for new textbooks, children go without. Perhaps the most significant consequence: Students in scores of districts are now going to school just four days a week."
How are they ever to replace lost Medicaid funding?
They can't..that's why I used them as an example, and there are other states struggling with medicaid expenditures too. You can blame the Governor or legislature but that doesn't do anything about what is happening on the ground.
Any ideas about what would happen to retirees like 90 year old Alice Jacobs of Orange, Virginia if she is forced out of her county nursing home due to proposed Medicaid cuts?
Sounds like Virginia needs to step up its game and raise taxes to cover the short-fall.
Costs increase because they are designed to. These business are typically held by stock holders. They expect year over year revenue increases. This is why health care for profit will always increase - because it has to or it's a failing business. There will never be "cost decreases" in a for profit business because if the costs are reduced, the owners will keep that as additional profit.
I 100% agree costs have to increase over time. But there's a difference between your Big Mac being 10% more expensive next year and it being 300% more expensive. It has to be in touch with what people are willing/able to pay. If I have one criticism of Medicaid, it's that it may be inflating these healthcare costs because surely the nursing homes would go out of business if no one could afford it. That being said, who wants their grandma or grandpa to be the guinea pig in that scenario? It's an awful system and I'd be happy to cut Medicaid if there was a plan that addressed costs not just who pays those costs.
I 100% agree costs have to increase over time. But there's a difference between your Big Mac being 10% more expensive next year and it being 300% more expensive. It has to be in touch with what people are willing/able to pay. If I have one criticism of Medicaid, it's that it may be inflating these healthcare costs because surely the nursing homes would go out of business if no one could afford it. That being said, who wants their grandma or grandpa to be the guinea pig in that scenario? It's an awful system and I'd be happy to cut Medicaid if there was a plan that addressed costs not just who pays those costs.
Are you suggesting that we cut what medicaid pays, or cut who is on it? There's some good data out there that allows us to compare medicaid provider reimbursement to medicare. During 2014 the Feds increased the medicaid reimbursement to match medicare's. At the end of the year the supplement ended and this table shows how much the provider reimbursement decreased at the end of the year
It's hard to see how much less medicaid providers could be paid before they would refuse all medicaid patients.
So the other thing you can cut is the number of people on medicaid. The people on expanded medicaid are the easiest group to go after because it's easy to claim they are just feckless scoundrels who should get a job, but the fact is that most of them have jobs, they just happen to have crappy low paying jobs without insurance. After that, who do you cut? The disabled, children, the elderly, pregnant women?
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