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View Poll Results: Do you agree with Trumpcare?
Yes 15 14.85%
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Old 06-27-2017, 10:14 AM
 
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Medicaid was slated to go broke even before it was expanded.

The expansion was total nonsense.

Medicaid should only be for the disabled or the elderly in nursing homes.

And we should get rid of CHIP, which pays the health care costs of children even in upper-income families.

Handouts, handouts, handouts.

And we're $20 trillion in debt.

That's enough to give 20 million families a million dollars each.
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Old 06-27-2017, 10:21 AM
 
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Your first reply to me made no sense, and you're still not making any sense.

But have fun arguing with that imaginary person in your head.

Whatever turns you on.

Do you not understand the concept of "effective tax rate" How freaking dense can you be? Do you even understand math?
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Old 06-27-2017, 10:27 AM
 
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Medicaid was slated to go broke even before it was expanded.

The expansion was total nonsense.

Medicaid should only be for the disabled or the elderly in nursing homes.

And we should get rid of CHIP, which pays the health care costs of children even in upper-income families.

Handouts, handouts, handouts.


And we're $20 trillion in debt.

That's enough to give 20 million families a million dollars each.

Like the $405 billion tax break (according to Forbes) the employed insured got last year?
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Old 06-27-2017, 10:30 AM
 
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Good. Pass it. Cut them all off.

Why should the working uninsured pay a higher effective tax rate than the working insured?
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Old 06-27-2017, 10:33 AM
 
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Do you not understand the concept of "effective tax rate" How freaking dense can you be? Do you even understand math?
Do you even understand how to reply to a post instead of to an imaginary person in your head?
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Old 06-27-2017, 10:33 AM
 
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Like the $405 billion tax break (according to Forbes) the employed insured got last year?
Yep, people who are getting thier insurance through thier employers are receiving huge government subsidies even though they don't realize it. There is no way in hell anyone could afford the full freight of an insurance policy without government help. But these are the very same people who cry LEECH! at those of us who got our subsidies directly through the exchanges instead of through our employers.

If my subsidy makes me a leech, then the subsidized health insurance everyone else gets through their employers make them leeches, too.
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Old 06-27-2017, 10:35 AM
 
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Yep, people who are getting thier insurance through thier employers are receiving huge government subsidies even though they don't realize it. There is no way in hell anyone could afford the full freight of an insurance policy without government help. But these are the very same people who cry LEECH! at those of us who got our subsidies directly through the exchanges instead of through our employers.

If my subsidy makes me a leech, then the subsidized health insurance everyone else gets through their employers make them leeches, too.
Nobody should get anything.

Pay for your own damn health care!
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Old 06-27-2017, 10:35 AM
 
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What is Trumpcare?

Exactly what its eponym excels at, a Dog & Pony Show.
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Old 06-27-2017, 10:38 AM
 
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Yep, people who are getting thier insurance through thier employers are receiving huge government subsidies even though they don't realize it. There is no way in hell anyone could afford the full freight of an insurance policy without government help. But these are the very same people who cry LEECH! at those of us who got our subsidies directly through the exchanges instead of through our employers.

If my subsidy makes me a leech, then the subsidized health insurance everyone else gets through their employers make them leeches, too.
Nope. If you're being subsidized via Obamacare, you are doing nothing to earn that subsidy. If your employer is paying part of the cost of your coverage, that's part of your total compensation that you do earn every day you work. Two completely different things.
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Old 06-27-2017, 10:38 AM
 
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Nobody should get anything.

Pay for your own damn health care!
You first. If the government removed the employer subsidy you are benefitting from right now you would not like the astronomical cost you alone would be responsible for.

So give it up. Pay for your own damn healthcare! Why should I subsidize YOU?
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