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Nope. If you're being subsidized via Obamacare, you are doing nothing to earn that subsidy. If your employer is paying part of the cost of your coverage, that's part of your total compensation that you do earn every day you work. Two completely different things.
No, it's not. The government provides huge tax subsidies to companies that offer health insurance to their employees. Let's take those away and see how happy you are with the cost.
I don't agree with it, but I want it passed. I want it shoved through. It will disproportionately affect Trump voters and Trump counties.
I think they should experience that their vote has consequences. Why let him keep bashing Obama while he destroys the country in every way he possibly can.
Besides, it can only help the Dems in 2018.
The issue is that these people are so dumb, that they'll likely believe the narrative that they are losing their coverage because of Obama or the Democrats. There is about a 0.0001% chance they hold either Trump or Republicans accountable for what they're doing.
No, it's not. The government provides huge tax subsidies to companies that offer health insurance to their employees. Let's take those away and see how happy you are with the cost.
This addresses the subsidies
http://www.coloradohealthinstitute.o...ed-health-care
The third biggest category is the $222 billion tax exclusion for employer-sponsored insurance (ESI). Most Americans get their insurance through their employers, and the cost of the insurance premiums — whether paid by the employer or by the worker (or both) — is not counted like ordinary wages or salaries. The tax exclusion reduces workers’ income and payroll taxes. It’s essentially a subsidy for workers to buy coverage.
You first. If the government removed the employer subsidy you are benefitting from right now you would not like the astronomical cost you alone would be responsible for.
So give it up. Pay for your own damn healthcare! Why should I subsidize YOU?
You should stop making ASSumptions about me.
Such as that I have an employer in the first place.
No, it's not. The government provides huge tax subsidies to companies that offer health insurance to their employees. Let's take those away and see how happy you are with the cost.
Based on what I pay and what my employer pays on my behalf still a hell of a lot happier than what I pay for much lousier Obamacare coverage since I'd be a subsidizer and not a subsidizee. Let's see how happy you'd be without others helping pay your way. Probably not very.
You first. If the government removed the employer subsidy you are benefitting from right now you would not like the astronomical cost you alone would be responsible for.
So give it up. Pay for your own damn healthcare! Why should I subsidize YOU?
In addition to tax breaks given to companies(gov subsidy for health insurance)....
Due to companies paying for employee's health insurance, the goods and services that the company sells cost more. We pay extra for goods and services in order to subsidize the cost of employee's health insurance. In effect, everyone is subsidizing employer provided health insurance when they buy goods and services (either directly or indirectly) from the company that provides health insurance to their empoyees. It's part of their overhead which gets passed on to the consumer in cost of goods and services.
If you feel so sorry for him why don't you take out your wallet and pay their premium?
This is basically the conservative philosophy. "I got mine, now I'm going to take yours. When you complain, I'll just call you a whiny freeloader and tell a 'bleeding heart' liberal to pay for it when they express empathy."
This is basically the conservative philosophy. "I got mine, now I'm going to take yours. When you complain, I'll just call you a whiny freeloader and tell a 'bleeding heart' liberal to pay for it when they express empathy."
Pay for your own stuff.
Yes, that's the conservative philosophy.
Keep your paws out of my pocket, and I'll do the same for you.
The suggestion that the rich are "taking from the poor" -- who have nothing to begin with (so there's nothing to "take")-- is just one of the many absurd narratives of the Left.
In addition to tax breaks given to companies(gov subsidy for health insurance)....
Due to companies paying for employee's health insurance, the goods and services that the company sells cost more. We pay extra for goods and services in order to subsidize the cost of employee's health insurance. In effect, everyone is subsidizing employer provided health insurance when they buy goods and services (either directly or indirectly) from the company that provides health insurance to their empoyees. It's part of their overhead which gets passed on to the consumer in cost of goods and services.
Why just point out health care as being "subsidized"? Don't you also "subsidize" salaries, overhead, cost of facilities, raw materials and literally every other cost of manufacturing and selling a product? Of course the costs of running any business are passed on to the consumer. That's how it works.
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