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I'm going to try a different approach to explaining this to the people who think getting rid of NN is a good idea. I hope Dane or coalman will let me know if my analogy goes off the rails.
Let's say you have phone service with Sprint.
Let's say that Sprint decides not to let you call anyone who gets their phone service from T-Mobile, or, that if you can make such a call, they give you lousy service during those calls.
Now let's say that Sprint is the only service you have access to in your city, neighborhood, or building.
Are you okay with this?
Yeah. Most folks just think it’s Repubs overturning another evil Obama regulation but fail to realize its one that they probably agree with.
Just like folks who thought Affordable HC was better than Obamacare.
I'm going to try a different approach to explaining this to the people who think getting rid of NN is a good idea. I hope Dane or coalman will let me know if my analogy goes off the rails.
Let's say you have phone service with Sprint.
Let's say that Sprint decides not to let you call anyone who gets their phone service from T-Mobile, or, that if you can make such a call, they give you lousy service during those calls or otherwise limit the usefulness of your service to penalize you for dealing with the competition.
Now let's say that Sprint is the only service you have access to in your city, neighborhood, or building, so you are stuck with it, if you want a phone at all.
Are you okay with this?
If Obama was against it, I guarantee they would be perfectly fine with it.
Two sides to the same authoritarian coin. Always doing the bidding of those that finance their existence, the Central Banking Families. Everything else is bread and circuses. Party has meant nothing since 1913.
You seem to have an ax to grind. I think there may be some good rocks elsewhere.
Two sides to the same authoritarian coin. Always doing the bidding of those that finance their existence, the Central Banking Families. Everything else is bread and circuses. Party has meant nothing since 1913.
So you are being provided with an object lesson, and you still insist that both sides are equally bad. Duly noted.
The internet is already pretty censored as it is if you use the google as your lens. Back before google got huge it's search results were wildly different.. more like the deep web is today, so I don't see how net neutrality will have an affect either way.
Should netflix have to pay content providers because a full third of all the bandwidth used on the internet can be people using netflix? I can see the argument that they should have to pay, but then netflix will just charge us more to use the service.. getting rid of net neutrality to me is akin to having ala carte cable service.
If it results in lower prices for us, that's fine by me, but I doubt it will.
The internet is already pretty censored as it is if you use the google as your lens. Back before google got huge it's search results were wildly different.. more like the deep web is today, so I don't see how net neutrality will have an affect either way.
Should netflix have to pay content providers because a full third of all the bandwidth used on the internet can be people using netflix? I can see the argument that they should have to pay, but then netflix will just charge us more to use the service.. getting rid of net neutrality to me is akin to having ala carte cable service.
If it results in lower prices for us, that's fine by me, but I doubt it will.
We'll see where it takes us....
No, it's not. Bandwidth is bandwidth. I'm already paying for 1TB of data from Comcast. What I do with that 1TB of data is none of Comcast's business.
Anyway, I can choose to go to Google or Apple etc. or not, depending on whether I like their business methods. I have a very limited selection of ISPs (and I'm extraordinarily lucky to have even that) and I cannot access the Internet without one.
Why are you in favor of rolling back a rule that protects your privacy? It rather baffles me.
I am not, for the record I think things should stay as they are. However the privacy ship sailed long ago.
I'm going to try a different approach to explaining this to the people who think getting rid of NN is a good idea. I hope Dane or coalman will let me know if my analogy goes off the rails.
Let's say you have phone service with Sprint.
Let's say that Sprint decides not to let you call anyone who gets their phone service from T-Mobile, or, that if you can make such a call, they give you lousy service during those calls or otherwise limit the usefulness of your service to penalize you for dealing with the competition.
Now let's say that Sprint is the only service you have access to in your city, neighborhood, or building, so you are stuck with it, if you want a phone at all.
Are you okay with this?
That's a pretty good analogy, actually. And it highlights that even if you were to drop Sprint in favor of T-Mobile, you'll still be SOL every time you wanted to talk to anyone with a Sprint phone.
The internet is already pretty censored as it is if you use the google as your lens. Back before google got huge it's search results were wildly different.. more like the deep web is today, so I don't see how net neutrality will have an affect either way.
It is not about content.
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Should netflix have to pay content providers because a full third of all the bandwidth used on the internet can be people using netflix?
It is not about bandwidth.
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If it results in lower prices for us, that's fine by me, but I doubt it will.
Power to ensure ISPs provide equal access to any and all internet content. Without it, the power transfers to the Comcasts of the world to decide which content to offer at higher/lower costs or even at all.
Exactly. Finally, after page after page of point/counterpoint about nothing much
someone cuts to the chase. It isn't about the price. America, for all its progressive posturing is a Puritanical Nanny State with a Moral Majority that has finally got its hands on real power and influence and they intend to make over America in their WASP utopia like other totalitarian regimes do when they conquer secular enclaves. Most will pretend to love the total absence of porn, unregulated or non-commercial material on the cleaned up Internet, but I suspect there will be a lot of pining for the 'good old days'. Oh, and I love the "Democrats should have fixed this for us". Our country cannot survive if all common sense and reason resides only in the minds of Democrats!! It's time we all start thinking and acting in the interests of the common good.
PS I'll bet you thought you were putting one over on them with your 'ad-blocker' or proxy browser or whatever Dark Web search engine you were using. They tolerated your activities because they weren't illegal and it wasn't worth their time (or money) to block you. Now it will be. Your toys will be useless. You will have better luck running illegal unlicensed high lead content gasoline automobiles on public roads where your chances of detection would vary by the penetration of State Inspection Facilities in your jurisdiction. Try using an illegal browser or other disallowed technology on a privately owned network and see if you don't wind up banned from it... or worse.
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