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Old 12-14-2017, 01:44 PM
 
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Originally Posted by whitem3 View Post
Here's the email addresses of those who voted to kill net neutrality. Let them know what you think of them.

https://www.fcc.gov/about/leadership...eadership_tabs

https://www.fcc.gov/about/leadership...eadership_tabs

https://www.fcc.gov/about/leadership...eadership_tabs
Can we mail them something foul-smelling in a box? Maybe they'll get the message.

 
Old 12-14-2017, 01:44 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Grizzmeister View Post
Donald Trump's executive orders as president show he's generally against government regulations. However, it's also clear that Trump wants to be a populist so that's why I believe he could be persuaded to allow net neutrality to remain in place. After all, most Americans want to keep net neutrality.
A vast majority of Americans wanted to keep these regulations in place.

Net Neutrality has overwhelming bipartisan political support, as well.


This is LITERALLY doing the opposite of what the American people, and their representatives in government, want.
 
Old 12-14-2017, 01:44 PM
 
Location: Born & Raised DC > Carolinas > Seattle > Denver
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"Net Neutrality": A misleading term for Obama-era rules forbidding Internet providers (ISPs) from slowing down or otherwise reducing data flow for heavy users.

Rather than letting users decide for themselves if they want to sign up with an ISP who does this (not-so-heavy users might like the lower prices of providers who restrict data flow to super-heavy users, while the Super-heavies might find they can use all they want but have to pay for it). During the Obama era, the Federal government decided they have to take care of users who make a bad decision, by arbitrarily restricting the ISPs who offer such choice. This allowed super-heavy users to overburden data nets, choking off everybody, including people who were only moderate users.

Now the FCC has decided to repeal such govt restrictions. Now users need to read the fine print on their contracts, and/or call an ISP and ask them if they do that, and at what levels of data flow. Super-heavy users can still overburden the net, but ISPs can either deliberately slow them down, or charge them a lot extra for their extravagance and let THEM decide if they want to slow down.

Government is no longer your mother, protecting you from every little thing that comes down the pike. You have to actually find out for yourself, and plan accordingly. Horrors!

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/f...111440509.html

This is a pretty bad description of Net Neutrality.


::edit:: Nevermind, multiple people have already told you that.
 
Old 12-14-2017, 01:47 PM
 
Location: Central Mexico and Central Florida
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Umm.. 4 of the 5 members of the committee were appointed by.. Obama.

The only Trump appointee on the FCC Committee is Brendan Carr.
Stop LYING. Seriously. Here are the facts of the 3 to 2 vote.
https://www.dallasnews.com/business/...utrality-rules
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The Federal Communications Commission has voted on party lines to undo sweeping Obama-era "net neutrality" rules that guaranteed equal access to internet.

The agency's Democratic commissioners dissented in the 3-2 vote Thursday.
 
Old 12-14-2017, 01:47 PM
 
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And if AT&T blocks content you want, and another provider does not, you as the educated consumer should a) switch to the provider that meets your demands the best, and b) explain to AT&T why they just lost your revenue.

If a clothing store does not carry a brand you like, do you petition the government to force every store to carry every brand in equal numbers, or do you simply go to a store that you know has the brands you like?
Nope. More like AT&T tells you that there is a new $10 per month Netflix charge, so if you want to stream netflix at a rate faster than 2MBPS, you have to pay it. You say "F this, I'm using another provider" and then you realize that your choices are AT&T and... AT&T. Which means you, as the consumer, are screwed.
 
Old 12-14-2017, 01:47 PM
 
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As with all of these policy changes, I would like to hear their argument FOR repealing net neutrality... what is their explanation as to how it would benefit consumers?
 
Old 12-14-2017, 01:47 PM
 
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All Trump has done is revert back to the rules Clinton/Gore had in place.
Which were not popular and were wrought with issues. As well, the challenges of the Internet of the late 90's are much different than the challenges facing the Internet in 2017.

Net Neutrality is not a new subject or topic - these regulations did not spring out of a vacuum in 2015.
 
Old 12-14-2017, 01:47 PM
 
Location: Palo Alto
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Umm.. 4 of the 5 members of the committee were appointed by.. Obama.

The only Trump appointee on the FCC Committee is Brendan Carr.

If true, classic!
 
Old 12-14-2017, 01:48 PM
Noc
 
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All Trump has done is revert back to the rules Clinton/Gore had in place.

The internet was still in it's infancy back then. Back then most people were STILL on dial up. Broadband wasn't everywhere. It's more fleshed out today and ISP want greater control over who can go where. The internet today it literally everything to most people and the ISP's know it.
 
Old 12-14-2017, 01:48 PM
 
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There is literally only 1 ISP where I live. What fantasy land do you live in where everyone magically has many multiple options for ISP services? The ISP in our city also even has had exclusive rights for going on the last 15 years.

You act like streaming Netflix is a major problem. Why is it that when ISPs like Comcast face stiff competition in other areas of the country that provide municipal internet they crap their pants because muni internets have no problems providing services that can handle Netflix? The only thing Comcast wants to do is have as big of a monopoly on internet access as possible and provide the worst service they can without having to pay structural upgrades that keep pace with the development of the internet.
Exactly right. I have the choice of one Internet provider in my area, and that is Charter. There is nothing else. These people telling us to just go find another provider are ignorant right wingers who have no idea what they're talking about. They just know that the GOP is pushing this so they will support it without any understanding of what they're supporting.
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