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I don't go to the courthouse and protest Publix selling eggs... don't matter if they are idiots and can't figure it out. they are protesting by displaying a disrespectful manner TOWARDS the anthem/flag is still disrespectful regardless of what they are doing it for... someone can burn the flag and protest the same thing, doesn't make what they did okay...
Kneeling has NEVER been a sign of disrespect. Just the opposite.
If that's true, where were these protests when that fool Obama was President? Most of these killings happened under his watch. I guess the idiot NFL players and their supporters are too stupid to see that.
There were protests under Obama. People bitched about that also. I noted the corruption of the Baltimore police Dept in another thread and not a peep. You aren't interested in that are you?
While the self serving and self congratulatory overpaid morons on the football field kneel, brave police officers from Las Vegas were seen running to the scene of the carnage, standing tall and directing people away from the scene while gunfire rained down everywhere around them. Brave officers also stormed the Mandalay and the room where this shooter was running mad, finally ending his life.
While NFL players were serving their communities by giving donations of their time and money the police:
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Ferguson’s law enforcement practices are shaped by the City’s focus on revenue rather
than by public safety needs. This emphasis on revenue has compromised the institutional
character of Ferguson’s police department, contributing to a pattern of unconstitutional policing,
and has also shaped its municipal court, leading to procedures that raise due process concerns
and inflict unnecessary harm on members of the Ferguson community. Further, Ferguson’s
police and municipal court practices both reflect and exacerbate existing racial bias, including
racial stereotypes. Ferguson’s own data establish clear racial disparities that adversely impact
African Americans. The evidence shows that discriminatory intent is part of the reason for these
disparities. Over time, Ferguson’s police and municipal court practices have sown deep mistrust
between parts of the community and the police department, undermining law enforcement
legitimacy among African Americans in particular
My take is that Boyer was convinced that Kaepernick was going to make, and will continue to make, public statements regarding how he feels. Boyer wanted Kaepernick to have some kind of tone down gesture that would be an acceptable compromise between public statement and basic respect for the national symbol. Burning the flag during the national anthem would have ended Kaepernick's career in the NFL with no second chance like he is trying to get now via free agency. Kneeling was the best solution Boyer could offer.
Do you claim to speak for Ken Boyer?
I'll let him speak for himself
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Originally Posted by Ken Boyer
We sorta came to a middle ground where he would take a knee alongside his teammates. Soldiers take a knee in front of a fallen brother's grave, you know, to show respect. When we're on a patrol, you know, and we go into a security halt, we take a knee, and we pull security.
That doesn't sound anything like the bull**** you were saying earlier.
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Originally Posted by Roderic
Unfortunately, the flag contains my service as much as it contains police brutality. The flag contains EVERYTHING about a country. The good and the bad. So if you are going to use the flag as a prop for your political message, you are dragging my service into the message.
If your message is that the US an evil country, then by connection, I am an evil person because I was once a direct agent for the US. You may not intended to say that, but that is the risk you run by using a national symbol instead of using something else more specific.
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Originally Posted by california-jewel
Good Post
In fact these brave Police officers, should get paid with those idiot FOOTBALL PLAYERS DO!
Feel free to donate you money
Or contact your local representatives
The average NFL players salary is about $2 million a year.
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Originally Posted by evilnewbie
The fact that police officers and unarmed black men have nothing to do with the anthem or flag... seems like I do know better...
Unfortunately, the flag contains my service as much as it contains police brutality. The flag contains EVERYTHING about a country. The good and the bad. So if you are going to use the flag as a prop for your political message, you are dragging my service into the message.
If your message is that the US an evil country, then by connection, I am an evil person because I was once a direct agent for the US. You may not intended to say that, but that is the risk you run by using a national symbol instead of using something else more specific.
The issue is police brutality. You didn't mention it at all. You're focused on being a vet. Not the issue that they are protesting. Why is this so hard to grasp? You're talking in this patriot-baby talk..."If your message is that the US an evil country"...the issue is police brutality you are a mile away trying to avoid that.
Right. So for the vast majority of these NFL players who are "protesting," it is in fact about politics and not alleged police brutality.
Trump challenged their RIGHT to peacefully protest. All the people you see kneeling now were trying to be above it even though they sided with Kaepernick. Kaepernick was the fuse...Trump poured gas on a struggling flame like an idiot.
The issue is police brutality. You didn't mention it at all. You're focused on being a vet. Not the issue that they are protesting. Why is this so hard to grasp? You're talking in this patriot-baby talk..."If your message is that the US an evil country"...the issue is police brutality you are a mile away trying to avoid that.
Then they should focus on police not on America as a whole.
Then they should focus on police not on America as a whole.
Why not start by refusing to play in Baltimore?
On that note shouldn't POTUS focus on more urgent matters that a couple of NFL players taking a knee or sitting during the anthem. On the weekend Maria hits P.R. he tweets 24 times about the NFL and 5 about P.R.
On that note shouldn't POTUS focus on more urgent matters that a couple of NFL players taking a knee or sitting during the anthem. On the weekend Maria hits P.R. he tweets 24 times about the NFL and 5 about P.R.
Talk about a lack of focus.
Absolutely.
And, if players want to address police abuses, do that. Stop saying the country is racist.
And, if players want to address police abuses, do that. Stop saying the country is racist.
I think they are saying too much racism exists. You say it like an absolute as in the entire country is racist.
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