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View Poll Results: Should football players and university professors be easy to fire for their views?
Football players and university professors can be fired for their views. 142 43.03%
Neither can be fired for their views 188 56.97%
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Old 10-18-2017, 02:27 PM
 
Location: New York City
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Originally Posted by GotHereQuickAsICould View Post
Despite all the posts about how offended the racist, pardon me patriotic, contingency are
Respecting your country makes you a racist? Wow what a f***ing a**hole

 
Old 10-18-2017, 02:30 PM
 
Location: Central New Jersey
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Goodells press conference was a complete waste of time and gave no answers or conclusions. The league has gone so soft since he assumed command
 
Old 10-18-2017, 02:33 PM
 
Location: Warrior Country
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Originally Posted by GotHereQuickAsICould View Post
Trump is using this to build some patriotic cred with his racist base.

The players are showing that Ben Franklin was right. "We either all hang together or we all hang separately."


It's a lesson that we should all take to heart.

Provocative Progressive playing that Race Card.


Interesting to see that two different people used that same Ben Franklin quote (within 20 minutes of each other). There must have been an email blast from their same Minister of Collectivism.
 
Old 10-18-2017, 02:40 PM
 
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I dont like the protest or the coverage it gets. IMO its a bit odd to protest a nation where you can play a sport and the league minimum is $400k yet you find there is this massive injustice in the US that you feel compelled to kneel and show resistance for what the flag stands for. Things could be so far worse.

Now, anyone has the right to do as they please during the anthem, sit, squat, kneel, stand, poop.......However the players are at their place of work and drawing attention to political can be cause for discipline or termination as with any workplace.

Then again 70% of NFL players are broke within 2 years or retirement and they act like its the leagues fault that they have so many injuries and their health is crap down the road. Im sorry but nobody is paying $200+/ticket to watch flag football. If you want to get paid take some risks. Then also dont get mad when your wallet gets hurt cuz of your protest thats really doing sooooo much for your cause when everyone is tuning the game out.
 
Old 10-18-2017, 04:15 PM
 
Location: *
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Originally Posted by maciesmom View Post
Unfortunately that "some folks" includes the President.
Unfortunately, I agree with you.
 
Old 10-18-2017, 04:31 PM
 
Location: *
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Originally Posted by Pilot1 View Post
He has COMMENTED. He is not getting involved from a government perspective. What government actions has he done?
Mr. Trump commented about a private entity's employment decisions at a political rally, specifically:

Quote:
"Wouldn’t you love to see one of these NFL owners, when somebody disrespects our flag, to say, 'Get that son of a b---- off the field right now. Out. He's fired. He's fired!"
Quote:
18 U.S. Code § 227 - Wrongfully influencing a private entity’s employment decisions by a Member of Congress or an officer or employee of the legislative or executive branch:

(a) Whoever, being a covered government person, with the intent to influence, solely on the basis of partisan political affiliation, an employment decision or employment practice of any private entity—

(1) takes or withholds, or offers or threatens to take or withhold, an official act, or

(2) influences, or offers or threatens to influence, the official act of another,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for not more than 15 years, or both, and may be disqualified from holding any office of honor, trust, or profit under the United States.

(b) In this section, the term “covered government person” means—

(1) a Senator or Representative in, or a Delegate or Resident Commissioner to, the Congress;

(2) an employee of either House of Congress; or

(3) the President, Vice President, an employee of the United States Postal Service or the Postal Regulatory Commission, or any other executive branch employee (as such term is defined under section 2105 of title 5, United States Code).
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/227

Influences.

& what was the catchphrase of Mr. Trump's Reality TV show?

The definition of partisan political affiliation:

an adherent or supporter of a person, group, party, or cause, especially a person who shows a biased, emotional allegiance.
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/partisan

If "biased, emotional allegiance to Mr. Trump doesn't accurately describe his adherents or supporters, what does? (Have you read some of the comments in this thread alone?)
 
Old 10-18-2017, 04:34 PM
 
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Stand UP or get out of Football!
 
Old 10-18-2017, 05:01 PM
 
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So the NFL caters to these uber-patriotic and economically downtrodden cities and places to build their stadiums catering to many people who are sports fans and also happen to join the military for the benefits and because of lack of opportunities in other fields because Wall st has killed Main St. USA so they go fight for the same corporations who have driven their opportunities away, all in the name of freedom and uber-patriotism.

Sounds like a vicious circle and conflict of interest going on here. Sad, very sad.
 
Old 10-18-2017, 05:06 PM
 
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Originally Posted by BlakeJones View Post
You have no idea what you're talking about

There is 0 federal tax subsidy for any NFL team whatsoever
There are tax subsidies for them to build their stadiums for the respective teams. Where would they play without the stadiums? The breaks should be eliminated regardless of players kneeling.
You are ignorant.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/fl...rticle/2635525

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.053a5e5abee9

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stadium_subsidy

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/10/u...mele-hill.html
 
Old 10-18-2017, 07:53 PM
 
Location: San Francisco Bay Area
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Originally Posted by Loveshiscountry View Post
You could club a baby seal at midfield before the game and I'd still watch the NFL.
Did you really need to interject that disturbing image into the conversation? It's totally off-topic.

We get that you wanted to express your love of watching the NFL, but I think your comment was totally tasteless and gruesome.
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