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Old 10-19-2017, 09:46 PM
 
Location: Staten Island, NY
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Not Federal
Taxpayer money is taxpayer money.

 
Old 10-19-2017, 09:55 PM
 
Location: New York City
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Taxpayer money is taxpayer money.
No because the taxes paying for the new Stadium in Atlanta not being paid by taxpayers in Wyoming or Florida. The Federal government has never and will never subsidize any professional sports league in the way of operational breaks or venue subsidies. That's all at the local level
 
Old 10-19-2017, 10:03 PM
 
Location: Staten Island, NY
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No because the taxes paying for the new Stadium in Atlanta not being paid by taxpayers in Wyoming or Florida. The Federal government has never and will never subsidize any professional sports league in the way of operational breaks or venue subsidies. That's all at the local level
Which is being funded by municipal bonds. States and cities receive federal funding. If you think some federal dollars aren't being funneled in somehow that is very naive of you.
 
Old 10-19-2017, 11:09 PM
 
Location: Staten Island, NY
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Marshawn KLynch of the Raiders runs off the sideline and attacks an official during a game. Who knows why. Who cares. These guys always have an excuse why they behave badly when things don't go there way. This is the same guy who wore the everyone against Trump shirt and is a kneeler. I guess he will get two maybe three games for this behavior. Won't be seeing him kneel for a few weeks. I'm sure he will try to blame Trump.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rykuforqo8w
 
Old 10-19-2017, 11:13 PM
 
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You forgot to pass by the mirror before you spoke

Trump is the president of the United States, the head of the federal gov't. There are no Federal tax subsidies to the NFL
You're the only person talking about that.
OD's post in no way says that there are federal government subsidies to the NFL


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Trump is using the NFL's subsidized patriotism to appease much of his fan base, who are Veterans. He probably knows that it should not be tax subsided like it has been.
 
Old 10-20-2017, 05:30 AM
 
Location: New York Area
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What exactly is the point of "loving your country" if your country is seriously screwed up? I get that if you have a troubled child or family member should love them even if they behave badly, but it does not mean that you should condone their bad issues or even your own, because their issues could possibly be an effect or related to your issues. Those are family matters which are very important.

But loving your country for the sake of loving your country without thought your countries behavior and history and how it has affected your life and others seems rather pointless.
That's how conservatives act, and how they believe. The irony is that while they believe this and act this way, they also are trained to hate the "other side", no matter how much the "opposition" crafts legislation that helps these people.

You can't really separate these conservatives (let's call them Trump conservatives, because they are not so much conservatives as they are something else entirely) from members of any garden variety cult who has been brainwashed through years of repeated propaganda.

Those with any intellect have already broken free.
Try making a parallel post on a bulletin board in the DPRK questioning why you should worship Kim Jung Un.

But seriously, we have an amazing if imperfect country. Why not work constructively to make it better rather than "taking a knee" and offending people who might otherwise agree with you on a lot of things? I may agree with you on certain things but if you spit on my face, discussion over.
 
Old 10-20-2017, 05:49 AM
 
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Taxpayer money is taxpayer money.
And not a single dime should ever go to pay for these stadiums.

I was proud of Houston when we didn't buy Bud Adams off to keep the Oilers here. And then we ended up doing it years later.
 
Old 10-20-2017, 07:55 AM
 
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Try making a parallel post on a bulletin board in the DPRK questioning why you should worship Kim Jung Un.

But seriously, we have an amazing if imperfect country. Why not work constructively to make it better rather than "taking a knee" and offending people who might otherwise agree with you on a lot of things? I may agree with you on certain things but if you spit on my face, discussion over.
I question how "taking a knee" is the functional equivalent of spitting in your face but, in any event, I would think that engaging in a harmless act to draw attention to a social issue is a constructive first step towards making it better.
 
Old 10-20-2017, 08:41 AM
 
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I would think that engaging in a harmless act to draw attention to a social issue is a constructive first step towards making it better.
Which is probably why some people are so against it.
 
Old 10-20-2017, 08:52 AM
 
Location: Round Rock, Texas
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I question how "taking a knee" is the functional equivalent of spitting in your face but, in any event, I would think that engaging in a harmless act to draw attention to a social issue is a constructive first step towards making it better.
I, too, don't understand how taking a prostrated position (a "knee"), is disrespectful. I also fail to see how that's on the same level as burning, defacing, or mutilating a flag, which protesters have done for eons. Is the ire because these protesters are football players, whom we naturally hold in contempt as "overpaid primadonnas"?
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