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Old 08-19-2017, 04:58 PM
 
Location: Not far from Fairbanks, AK
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I believe the Mayans had collapsed before colonial contact. The Aztecs were at constant war with other tribal nations, who turned allies with the Spanish against them, with slaves and human sacrifice. The Incas were in a war between two factions when Pizzaro began his conquest.
Agree. According to historians, some of the past cultures were replaced by the next. I imagine that warfare existed within each culture, and probably between one and its neighbor, just like it happens today.

And if we use the civilizations or cultures of today as an example and compare to past civilizations, one can't ignore the fact that adhering to the laws of the land is the only way for a culture to exist. An outside or inside force can, of course, alter the existence of any civilization. In the case of the US, right now our future does not look too bright if we continue moving to the left.

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Old 08-19-2017, 05:11 PM
 
Location: Tri STATE!!!
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They actually do with the don't snitch policies, reluctance to vote to convict fellow blacks, taking revenge into their own hands, identity politics etc. And what about muslims and their bringing their culture and sharia law to America?
Irish , Italian and Spanish culture all DESPISE snithching. Matter of fact the godfather movie and Serpico made it part of pop culture.
 
Old 08-19-2017, 05:13 PM
 
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Oh, blame it on those grandchildren of Italian immigrants. Or maybe the Irish.

How come so many of us in New England are of English heritage and also on the left? We're not tearing down any British American tradition--it's true that it is fading and it has been fading for as long as I can remember. It's probably better if all ethnicities fade into one, the way we were were taught in school--like a melting pot.
The Puritan tradition was, in large part, a communal one. Folks lived in tightly knit villages and had then-religiously mandated responsibilities to the whole. The community in return provided a certain level of services that included an impressive level of educational opportunities.

Centuries later, the religiosity has faded but not the concepts about the proper role of government. Later generations of immigrants - certainly including the Irish (who tend to be among the most liberal Americans) - assimilated into this underlying "culture" even though they did not lose folk characteristics such as love for the green.

In contrast, those pesky Scots-Irish who were rapidly pushed out of New England by the horrified Puritans and who ended up on the frontier then later spread down through the Southern highlands and further west maintained the attitude towards government that had been fostered generations earlier as they were pummeled in the Scottish lowlands and in the English borderer counties between the Scottish and English kings. Their farms tended to be separated. A respect for self-sufficiency was fostered by life on the frontier. The Scots-Irish are over-represented within the US military. Their experiences have fostered an instinctive and inherent suspicion of government.

It's all cultural. But two dramatically different cultures - both of which became part of the American experience. The differences, however, today are beginning to tear at the fabric of American society.

By contrast, the odd mosque down the road is no threat at all.
 
Old 08-19-2017, 05:19 PM
 
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Probably because blacks didn't like being denied voting rights, careers, respect...or being made to use separate schools, bathrooms, buses...or treat whites as superior overlords?

Ever thought of that? Let me guess, none of that registers with you as a problem because you're white.
I don't think his being White has anything to do with it. I think the resentment towards Blacks has far more to do with it.
 
Old 08-19-2017, 05:21 PM
 
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They actually do with the don't snitch policies, reluctance to vote to convict fellow blacks, taking revenge into their own hands, identity politics etc. And what about muslims and their bringing their culture and sharia law to America?
What part of African tribal law is that? Let us know which tribe.

Also, what European tribe caused white Americans to do the same and worse for so long?

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Irish , Italian and Spanish culture all DESPISE snithching. Matter of fact the godfather movie and Serpico made it part of pop culture.
Curious to hear his/her response...
 
Old 08-19-2017, 05:27 PM
 
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I wasn't even referring to British ancestry. All multi-generational white Americans in the majority support conserving America and the Democrats and their 'people of color' phony identity politics alliance in the majority are for transforming America into something more like a socialist/communist Latin American nation.

The unfortunate truth.
 
Old 08-19-2017, 05:27 PM
 
Location: Not far from Fairbanks, AK
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We aren't having the problems in Canada that the US is having, and only 32% of our population is Canadian born...... I'd say that is pretty diverse.
But your immigration laws are setup to enhance the prosperity of Canada. Canadians have no trouble whatsoever conducting business such as oil production, mining, and so on. In fact, when predator control measures are taken in Alaska, the agencies involved can't almost not accomplish the task because there is a tremendous opposition from animal rights groups. But when the same is planned for the Canadian Yukon, your agencies can accomplish the task a lot easier. Just look all the time it has taken for the US to authorize the construction of the Keystone pipeline

We even have US timber companies operating in Canada because it's easier for them to operate there than in the US.
 
Old 08-19-2017, 05:42 PM
 
Location: Not far from Fairbanks, AK
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I don't think his being White has anything to do with it. I think the resentment towards Blacks has far more to do with it.
Resentment to other races has always existed around the world, not just the US. The fact is that even within one race there are people who for whatever reason recent others around them.

We tend to forget that even some neighbors recent their neighbors, regardless of race, color, and the rest. Sometimes even brothers and sisters recent each other. Without rules, people just fight each other. This is human nature, and has to do with self preservation. Plants do it, humans do it, animals do it.
 
Old 08-19-2017, 05:44 PM
 
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Resentment to other races has always existed around the world, not just the US. The fact is that even within one race there are people who for whatever reason recent others around them.

We tend to forget that even some neighbors re, they recent their neighbors, regardless of race, color, and the rest. Sometimes even brothers and sisters recent each other. Without rules, people just fight each other. This is human nature, and has to do with self preservation. Plants do it, humans do it, animals do it.
I know it exists all over the world. And it worries me alot. I look at things from the perspective of right and wrong. I don't care about "human nature". It would be human nature for me to have resentment towards others based on race and ethnicity. However, I do not. There are certain subcultures in any race that I'm not fond of, but as far as race goes, I choose to to carry the attitude of racial resentment.
 
Old 08-19-2017, 05:55 PM
 
Location: Here and now.
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Everyone. Where were whites and blacks even succeeding more than in America in 1950s and 60s America?
And blacks "even?"

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