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Old 08-27-2017, 07:37 AM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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Originally Posted by Mason3000 View Post
This is extremely troubling if you value free speech.
Not in the least. It's the Free market at work, eliiminating negatives from the stable.

Individuals and private businesses cannot possily violate the Free Speech clause of 1A. It only addresses government interference in the right of an individual to speak. All others are free to complain, push back, contradict, shout down, or censure. The public has all the rights, including the right not to have to listen to you.

 
Old 08-27-2017, 07:44 AM
 
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Originally Posted by cuebald View Post
Not in the least. It's the Free market at work, eliiminating negatives from the stable.

Individuals and private businesses cannot possily violate the Free Speech clause of 1A. It only addresses government interference in the right of an individual to speak. All others are free to complain, push back, contradict, shout down, or censure. The public has all the rights, including the right not to have to listen to you.
I agree, now hows bout we apply this to bakers who wont bake cakes for gay weddings? Or is it only fun to support the free market when your team is on the winning end?
 
Old 08-27-2017, 07:44 AM
 
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I'll say it again, free speech is a one way street. You either support it or don't and you don't.
I'll say it again, free speech means you are allowed to ramble on about anything you so desire. The government is not allowed to stop you.

It does not mean forcing people to listen to any of your nonsense.

Nor does it mean forcing them to print it, or put it up on their servers, ...
 
Old 08-27-2017, 07:53 AM
 
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Many endeavors do not wish to be associated with Nazi websites or Nazi videos. Either they think it is morally wrong, or a PR disaster that could result in a consumer backlash.

Hence their TOS about hate speech.

Similar to "No shirts. No Shoes. No service."

If you can't behave, you can't be here.
 
Old 08-27-2017, 07:54 AM
 
Location: Houston
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I'll say it again, free speech is a one way street. You either support it or don't and you don't.
There are conflicting rights here. If you are talking about government restricting Stormfront I agree that should not be done. However, I do not have the right to speak freely on someone else's property. We have to stay within the ToS here or risk banning. Their property, their rules.
 
Old 08-27-2017, 07:56 AM
 
Location: Houston
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Originally Posted by GotHereQuickAsICould View Post

Similar to "No shirts. No Shoes. No service."
Yet you can walk in with no pants.
 
Old 08-27-2017, 07:56 AM
 
Location: *
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Originally Posted by GotHereQuickAsICould View Post
Many endeavors do not wish to be associated with Nazi websites or Nazi videos. Either they think it is morally wrong, or a PR disaster that could result in a consumer backlash.

Hence their TOS about hate speech.

Similar to "No shirts. No Shoes. No service."

If you can't behave, you can't be here.
Relevant analogy ~ some things are simply health issues.
 
Old 08-27-2017, 08:07 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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What happens when someone decides it should be your voice that should be suppressed? It always amazes me how quickly people are willing to allow our constitutional rights to be snatched. Right now what you say is in vogue, but that might not always be true and you have already given your blessings for suppression of your speech.
If they came on CD and started posting hate speech they'd get banned.

This isn't any different.
 
Old 08-27-2017, 08:24 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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If they came on CD and started posting hate speech they'd get banned.

This isn't any different.
exactly
 
Old 08-27-2017, 08:44 AM
 
Location: Pacific NW
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Just look at how quickly liberals jump on the pro business rights bandwagon when it's something they agree with. Hypocrites.
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