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Old 09-08-2017, 02:19 PM
 
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A friend of mine survived two cases of Cancer courtesy of Kaiser.

Uncle Sam is well-beyond broke because of various "freebie" programs? This will be the ultimate "freebie" that would be anything but free.
I care for many in HMO's. My wife was saved more than once by hers making the necessary payments.

The US can create USD, so going broke on the national level can only happen through stupidity/ideology.
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Old 09-08-2017, 02:23 PM
 
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The wars aren't freebies, they are Constitutionally authorized and amount to the most important role of the Federal government. And even if we ended all the wars, and let our enemies surround, and then defeat us, there would still be no money - a little less debt, perhaps, but still no money, AND, more importantly, Single Payer would still be a stupid idea promoted by two major groups.


The Parasite-class who wants to be nipple-fed on the sweat of somebody else's brow.
The Ruling-class who seek to increase their power and control over the people.


Which group do you belong to?
I can't take someone seriously that is concerned that Afghanistan might surround and defeat us. Lol
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Old 09-08-2017, 02:33 PM
 
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There have been state based experiments.

The reason none will work is simple - not enough money.
The ACA was based on the Massachusetts program. It was and still is considered to be a success.

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Old 09-08-2017, 03:36 PM
 
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I can't take someone seriously that is concerned that Afghanistan might surround and defeat us. Lol
No, but they can send terrorists. Don't you understand the difference between figurative and literal speaking? Sad, very sad.
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Old 09-08-2017, 03:39 PM
 
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No, but they can send terrorists. Don't you understand the difference between figurative and literal speaking? Sad, very sad.
No, I do not understand wasting the countries resources over things you have to make up to come up with a defense.
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Old 09-08-2017, 03:40 PM
 
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I care for many in HMO's. My wife was saved more than once by hers making the necessary payments.

The US can create USD, so going broke on the national level can only happen through stupidity/ideology.
Hello. We are already broke. Have you not kept up with the national debt?
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Old 09-08-2017, 03:41 PM
 
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No, I do not understand wasting the countries resources over things you have to make up to come up with a defense.
It's obvious you don't understand. Obvious in spades.


BTW, which countries (plural form of word) are you referring to?
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Old 09-08-2017, 03:43 PM
 
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It's obvious you don't understand. Obvious in spades.


BTW, which countries (plural form of word) are you referring to?
All of them doing stupid things.

It's also obvious you can not defend your position without making things up.
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Old 09-08-2017, 03:56 PM
 
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The ACA was based on the Massachusetts program. It was and still is considered to be a success.
OK, but their seniors have Medicare.
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Old 09-08-2017, 03:56 PM
 
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All of them doing stupid things.

It's also obvious you can not defend your position without making things up.
I haven't made anything up, and I challenge you to find anything I have made up.


In other words, put up or SHUT UP.


You're the rube who brought war in Afghanistan into a discussion of single payer. OMG. And you're supposed to be the future of America? OMG
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