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My god we can never let the far left control the federal government. These people are insane. At least the "do nothing" republicans aren't trying political experiments on us.
I don't care whether wars are freebies/constitutionally authorized or not. If you're fiscally concerned, you won't go to war UNLESS you have to, and if you do, get out fast and not stay there for a decade AND find a way to pay for it either by (1) increasing taxes or (2) decreasing expenses or (3) both.
That's the same issue you have with single payer. Except we're just shifting expenses into domestic issues to improve our own lives instead of fighting endless wars. What's better, building tanks or funding health?
Unfortunately, in this world of evil-doers, tanks are necessary in order to have health care.
I'm all for decreasing spending - eliminate all welfare programs at the Fed. level. End federal meddling in education, including funding schools etc., and a host of extra-Constitutional forays into spending/controlling.
The answer to fixing things that are broken, is NOT more of what broke them - in this case FEDERAL SPENDING benefiting individuals, i.e. entitlements. The answer is LESS of what broke them - MUCH less, parasites-be-damned.
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Unfortunately, in this world of evil-doers, tanks are necessary in order to have health care.
I'm all for decreasing spending - eliminate all welfare programs at the Fed. level. End federal meddling in education, including funding schools etc., and a host of extra-Constitutional forays into spending/controlling.
The answer to fixing things that are broken, is NOT more of what broke them - in this case FEDERAL SPENDING benefiting individuals, i.e. entitlements. The answer is LESS of what broke them - MUCH less, parasites-be-damned.
Again, your answer is total social darwinism. That's not going to fly😒
It may never be paid off, but it is rolled-over, and when interest rates go up, well, you'll see how much it costs to service the debt.
We basically direct the interest rates from the bottom via the Fed/Treasury. So rates there go up if and when they dictate. Benefits vs risks.
IMO we are in a low interest scenario short/medium term maybe longer. Maybe a bit up, not drastic to matter much. If push comes to shove down the road, first off we can issue more short term debt with lower rates.
And then we can use other means in the distant future.
We basically direct the interest rates from the bottom via the Fed/Treasury. So rates there go up if and when they dictate. Benefits vs risks.
IMO we are in a low interest scenario short/medium term maybe longer. Maybe a bit up, not drastic to matter much. If push comes to shove down the road, first off we can issue more short term debt with lower rates.
And then we can use other means in the distant future.
Oh, the machinations you must go through to do the insane. Just get the feds out of this, once and for all, and let the market take care of delivering the very best service and the very lowest price. That's what they do, you know (or, perhaps, you don't).
Oh, the machinations you must go through to do the insane. Just get the feds out of this, once and for all, and let the market take care of delivering the very best service and the very lowest price. That's what they do, you know (or, perhaps, you don't).
Ain't gonna happen. In 100 years our HC spending alone will be more USD than in existence today. Our people will not go without care, so the money will be found/made.
Ain't gonna happen. In 100 years our HC spending alone will be more USD than in existence today. Our people will not go without care, so the money will be found/made.
Game, Set, Match.
We should just shut everything down, if HC is going to be an economic black-hole that sucks in all the value produced by the economy.
It is amazing that you still don't get it. You don't even seem to be able to see it.
ONLY market forces will drive costs down and quality up. OPM will do the opposite, until there is nothing left for food, or clothing or anything else.
My friend, you have slid down the slippery slope and crashed at the bottom. I'll put up a headstone for you!!!!
Which countries? South America? I believe that it true there.
I have also lived in single payer system. Pretty much everyone use it, except the very old who see doctors all the time. The elderly prefer private clinics. The young see a doctor every other year for physical, and don't care for any additional insurance, because they get all they need from the single payer.
Oh, the machinations you must go through to do the insane. Just get the feds out of this, once and for all, and let the market take care of delivering the very best service and the very lowest price. That's what they do, you know (or, perhaps, you don't).
The 'market' had a chance to deliver the best care at the lowest price since at least the 1920's what went wrong? And how many more chances do they need? The only competition in healthcare is for elective services like Lasik and cosmetic surgery and the prices have been stable or dropped when other prices were rising, but those are services people don't need to stay alive and they aren't typically covered by insurance, so the consumer has some power to keep prices down.
But there is no competition when your three year old is having an asthma attack, you take the child to the closest ER for treatment you don't do a google search to try to save money or walk out with a sick kid if you think it will cost too much to treat her. If you get cancer, you beg your doctor to send you to the best oncologist in the area, you don't bargain shop. Probably 70% of the public would go bankrupt trying to pay for chemo or an expensive surgery- that's why we have health insurance.
You tell me, how do you create competition in a market where the providers and the insurance companies hold all the cards and we have none?
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