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Old 09-16-2017, 12:15 PM
 
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So the solution is what, to just cull all animals in shelters? Release them into the wild? Feral cats already decimate native bird populations. It would destroy the ecosystem. My one cat has a BB gun pellet permanently lodged in his chin from some jerk who shot him when he was a stray. The other was severely abused. I can't confidently say they were better off "in the wild".
Not only that, a cat can get pregnant at four months of age. And then can go into heat again eight weeks after giving birth to that litter. We already have a huge feral cat population out there that is multiplying exponentially. Imagine if we just released them all and allowed them to live in the wild what that would turn into.

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Every time I release my two dogs to the wild they come right back on my porch waiting at the door to be let in. I guess they prefer air conditioning, soft bedding and raw food twice a day.
LOL! I had a cat like that. I couldn't keep him in the house--he found very inventive ways of getting out no matter how I tried, so I eventually stopped trying. But he always, always returned at dinner time, without fail.
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Old 09-16-2017, 12:16 PM
 
Location: London
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I guarantee there are rescues for whatever you bought...labradoodle, goldrndoodle, shih tsu, lhasa apso, poodle, etc. I googled labradoodle rescues and got a bunch of results...same for the others.
Don't even get me started on rescues.

I started my search there of course, but the rescue operators were so demanding (insisting on a house with a backyard for a toy poodle, when I live in San Francisco and had a dog park a few blocks away), intrusive (wanting to see bank statements and demanding rights to show up unannounced at any time for surprise dog checks for the entire life of the dog), and they played a lot of games (deliberately flaking out on us and being unresponsive for a week in order to "test" our commitment before we even got to meet the dog, allegedly being based in SF, but then suddenly told I'd have had to drive 3 hours away to just meet the dog), etc.

I get having basic requirements so that the dog is adopted into a good home, but these rescues were beyond over the top. One rescue wouldn't even consider us because we're a young married couple with full-time jobs in tech (despite us telling them we weren't going to have kids, they insisted we probably would, and that the dog would be ignored due to our jobs and kids).

Honestly, I'm convinced that a lot of these "rescues" are just fronts for animal hoarders.

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Old 09-16-2017, 12:25 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Don't even get me started on rescues.

I started my search there of course, but the rescue operators were so demanding (insisting on a house with a backyard for a toy poodle, when I live in San Francisco and had a dog park a few blocks away), intrusive (wanting to see bank statements and demanding rights to show up unannounced at any time for surprise dog checks for the entire life of the dog), and they played a lot of games (deliberately flaking out on us and being unresponsive for a week in order to "test" our commitment before we even got to meet the dog, allegedly being based in SF, but then suddenly told I'd have had to drive 3 hours away to just meet the dog), etc.

I get having basic requirements so that the dog is adopted into a good home, but these rescues were beyond over the top.

Honestly, I'm convinced that a lot of these "rescues" are just fronts for animal hoarders.
Sorry you had a bad experience. I've adopted from two shelters and never had such an experience. I've had to provide references and a veterinarian name and number. We have a law out here that tracks animals abusers so they can't adopt again.

I wouldn't give up on shelters based on what happened at one place.
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Old 09-16-2017, 12:26 PM
 
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Every time I release my two dogs to the wild they come right back on my porch waiting at the door to be let in. I guess they prefer air conditioning, soft bedding and raw food twice a day.
As good slaves always do. They come back to their masters every time.
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Old 09-16-2017, 12:28 PM
 
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So the solution is what, to just cull all animals in shelters? Release them into the wild? Feral cats already decimate native bird populations. It would destroy the ecosystem. My one cat has a BB gun pellet permanently lodged in his chin from some jerk who shot him when he was a stray. The other was severely abused. I can't confidently say they were better off "in the wild".
Either kill them or let them go back to where they belong.

Nature always finds a way - it always has for billions of years.
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Old 09-16-2017, 12:29 PM
 
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I think you have it backwards, most of us are slaves to our pets!
Every slave master would tell you that as they must work nonstop to keep their slaves fed.
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Old 09-16-2017, 12:31 PM
 
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Not only that, a cat can get pregnant at four months of age. And then can go into heat again eight weeks after giving birth to that litter. We already have a huge feral cat population out there that is multiplying exponentially. Imagine if we just released them all and allowed them to live in the wild what that would turn into.



LOL! I had a cat like that. I couldn't keep him in the house--he found very inventive ways of getting out no matter how I tried, so I eventually stopped trying. But he always, always returned at dinner time, without fail.
The nature will take care of it. :-)
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Old 09-16-2017, 12:38 PM
 
Location: London
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Sorry you had a bad experience. I've adopted from two shelters and never had such an experience. I've had to provide references and a veterinarian name and number. We have a law out here that tracks animals abusers so they can't adopt again.

I wouldn't give up on shelters based on what happened at one place.
Those are reasonable requirements that I fully agree with. It could just be my area too. I know several other people who just bought their pets from reputable breeders because they were fed up with rescues.

I have no doubt that there are good rescues out there, and I would still give them a shot first (not the same ones of course).
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Old 09-16-2017, 01:22 PM
 
Location: Edmonds, WA
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Either kill them or let them go back to where they belong.

Nature always finds a way - it always has for billions of years.
That's not a very eco conscious way to look at it. If you are trying to approach this from a perspective of what is in the best interest of the animal, you are missing the mark because releasing them into the wild would not be in the best interests of the myriad species of wild animals that would be critically affected by such action. There are competing interests at play here. It's neither a pragmatic nor a humane thing to do. You say nature will eventually fix it. At what price? Why should that be a human's choice to make?
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Old 09-16-2017, 01:23 PM
 
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I'm laughing at the idea that everyone's dogs and cats are "enslaved" by their owners. Dramatic much?
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