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Old 09-20-2017, 10:21 AM
 
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Because it's San Francisco..a sanctuary city.
San Fran can NOT deport him. They have no jurisdiction to deport him. You know this but answered this way anyway as you can not answer truthfully.
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Old 09-20-2017, 10:21 AM
 
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It's different because San Francisco has their own laws and rules they follow.
I've already said that.

San Francisco has their own "sanctuary city" laws on illegals.
Doesn't matter. If the Feds start treating them like trespassers, they can eject them from the US immediately once they have them in custody instead of having to release them pending deportation hearings, etc.
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Old 09-20-2017, 10:30 AM
 
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The airlines typically have a policy for that. For example, Lufthansa:
Mexico isn't flying people back and collecting fee's and besides that, it's already been noted that we can turn people back at entryways.

Once here they get due process to determine their status.
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Old 09-20-2017, 10:31 AM
 
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Doesn't matter. If the Feds start treating them like trespassers, they can eject them from the US immediately once they have them in custody instead of having to release them pending deportation hearings, etc.
They do NOT have "illegal" stamped on their forehead. Only the court can determine status. You've been provided the rulings.
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Old 09-20-2017, 10:32 AM
 
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San Fran can NOT deport him. They have no jurisdiction to deport him. You know this but answered this way anyway as you can not answer truthfully.
He was being held in jail until his deportation hearing.
That's what the Feds were doing.

You blamed the Fed for letting him roam. It was not the Fed that set him free.

He was in jail in SF and it was SF judge that let him go with the monitor.
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Old 09-20-2017, 10:36 AM
 
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He was being held in jail until his deportation hearing.
That's what the Feds were doing.
As noted, illegally. Why is it that our laws mean nothing to you? We can't just pick people up and put them away for months.

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You blamed the Fed for letting him roam. It was not the Fed that set him free.

He was in jail in SF and it was SF judge that let him go with the monitor.
It was the Fed that refused to determine his status.
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Old 09-20-2017, 10:40 AM
 
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As noted, illegally. Why is it that our laws mean nothing to you? We can't just pick people up and put them away for months.



It was the Fed that refused to determine his status.
Well it's not like the Feds can schedule deporation hearings within a week..right ?
Again..8 years of lax immigration enforcement took their toll even in the courts regarding illegals.

But he committed murder so now they have a reason to hold him in jail.
The previous alleged crimes were misdemeanors and minor felonies..not enough to hold him.
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Old 09-20-2017, 10:43 AM
 
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Well it's not like the Feds can schedule deporation hearings within a week..right ?
It's been months.

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Again..8 years of lax immigration enforcement took their toll even in the courts regarding illegals.

But he committed murder so now they have a reason to hold him in jail.
The previous alleged crimes were misdemeanors and minor felonies..not enough to hold him.
So it takes one guy with charges against him months to get through the system and you expect to be able to process 10 million people?
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Old 09-20-2017, 10:48 AM
 
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Mexico isn't flying people back and collecting fee's and besides that, it's already been noted that we can turn people back at entryways.
Who said anything about Mexico paying? When one is turned away by CBP at an airport, it's THEIR responsibility to pay for their return trip. If they don't have enough to pay, the US pays and bills the airlines for the fare plus fees. If the airlines don't pay, they lose access to US airports. The airlines than have to collect from the individuals who have been turned away.

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Once here they get due process to determine their status.
Which makes no sense. Trespassers are ejected and then get their due process after the fact. Eject the illegal aliens who can't provide proof of citizenship or legal presence when apprehended. They can appeal their case afterwards from their home country, if they wish.
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Old 09-20-2017, 10:50 AM
 
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The Federal Government didn't allow him to roam free.
He was locked up.

A judge in SF set him free.
The PD in SF set him free..multiple times.

But the Fed..they did have him locked up..but it was in San Francisco, a sanctuary city.
A federal immigration judge put him on an ankle monitor rather than keeping him in jail.

ICE admits they "could have picked him up in August but they have many such cases and have to prioritize"
@1:50 of video on this link ICE Confirms Teen Accused of Stealing San Francisco Police Officer

ICE did not respond to the alert received when the jail removed the ankle monitor
Slaying points to S.F. clash with feds - San Francisco Chronicle, 2017-09-16

ICE knows that SF County Jail, would not honor the request for detainer, why didn't they get a warrant signed by a federal judge which would have been honored?
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