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Old 09-19-2017, 01:45 PM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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Lol...never mind that the courts are saying it can't be done.
Lower courts, be clear on that. It'd be interesting to see what SCOTUS has to say as we already know what the Ninth Circuit will say...
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Old 09-19-2017, 01:59 PM
 
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Lower courts, be clear on that. It'd be interesting to see what SCOTUS has to say as we already know what the Ninth Circuit will say...
No, the Supreme Court ruled that immigration was a Federal issue. Period.

The lower courts are ruling this way because of Arizona v United States.
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Old 09-19-2017, 02:17 PM
 
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Teen wanted for deportation is accused of San Francisco killing - Story | KTVU

Very sad that this is happening because San Francisco is releasing dangerous criminals from jail just make a political statement.

San Francisco Sanctuary Policies Claim Another Victim | Frontpage Mag

Looks like this has been an ongoing thing where San Francisco is releasing those on ICE detainers and later one of these illegal immigrants commits a major crime.
Cool story.

yet it is already determined that no city nor state is required to hold people beyond their release date to facilitate ICE.

ICE could have simply taken him earlier, they CHOSE not too. ICE decided they could not be bothered showing up in a timely manner to collect him. Remember folks ICE released this dude months earlier and put a bracelet on him instead of deporting.. (ie trump's ICE not Obama's)


Let me repeat that for those who dont understand.

NO STATE is required to detain poeple in order to facilitate ICE . This is settled law, there is no debate.


Trump and Sessions can't arrest people without a real charge and frankly the only ones likely to be chargeable are likley whoever was supposed to put the anklet back on the bad guy...

that is pretty much the ONLY mistake here. Remember if you don't like the law work in your state to have them change it...
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Old 09-19-2017, 02:21 PM
 
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That is the thing Take most die hard Libs and you will have someone who is yet to be a victim of crime.

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really todd? really? Or are you just showing us your prejudices.

i strongly doubt you can back that rubbish up in any way shape or form. In fact i am sure you can't and i am sure you just made it up because you are angry libs are exercising their state rights.
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Old 09-19-2017, 03:49 PM
 
Location: Secure Bunker
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Cool story.

yet it is already determined that no city nor state is required to hold people beyond their release date to facilitate ICE.

ICE could have simply taken him earlier, they CHOSE not too. ICE decided they could not be bothered showing up in a timely manner to collect him. Remember folks ICE released this dude months earlier and put a bracelet on him instead of deporting.. (ie trump's ICE not Obama's)


Let me repeat that for those who dont understand.

NO STATE is required to detain poeple in order to facilitate ICE . This is settled law, there is no debate.


Trump and Sessions can't arrest people without a real charge and frankly the only ones likely to be chargeable are likley whoever was supposed to put the anklet back on the bad guy...

that is pretty much the ONLY mistake here. Remember if you don't like the law work in your state to have them change it...
So you're perfectly OK with what the SF police did.

Got it.
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Old 09-19-2017, 04:14 PM
 
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Cool story.

yet it is already determined that no city nor state is required to hold people beyond their release date to facilitate ICE.

ICE could have simply taken him earlier, they CHOSE not too. ICE decided they could not be bothered showing up in a timely manner to collect him. Remember folks ICE released this dude months earlier and put a bracelet on him instead of deporting.. (ie trump's ICE not Obama's)
Here's what you're missing about the situation: SF Police removed the ankle bracelet the Federal agency had put on him to track him.

What gives the SF Police the authority to overrule the Feds, and do so?
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Old 09-19-2017, 04:22 PM
 
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Aww Cmon folks this is only one example... the rest of these darlings are future valedictorians, doctors, CEO's, happy workers in jobs that Americans don't want and upstanding people that strive to be contributing members of society if Trump would only allow them to be.....


Seriously it is ridiculous that San Fran is violating federal law and protecting illegal aliens. I wonder if they would protect me if I broke some laws?

This is yet another reason never to visit San Fran.
No they wouldn't. They are even deliberately undercharging criminals across the country to protect them from deportation. Even The Daily Beast has noticed.

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Old 09-19-2017, 04:36 PM
 
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No they wouldn't. They are even deliberately undercharging criminals across the country to protect them from deportation. Even The Daily Beast has noticed.

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In NYC they don't arrest them. They give them tickets instead so they don't have to be fingerprinted.
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Old 09-19-2017, 04:36 PM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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No, the Supreme Court ruled that immigration was a Federal issue. Period.

The lower courts are ruling this way because of Arizona v United States.
SCOTUS has not ruled on withholding of federal funds for states/counties/cities that decide to play their games which is the post you responded to?
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Old 09-19-2017, 05:02 PM
 
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Cool story.

yet it is already determined that no city nor state is required to hold people beyond their release date to facilitate ICE.

ICE could have simply taken him earlier, they CHOSE not too. ICE decided they could not be bothered showing up in a timely manner to collect him. Remember folks ICE released this dude months earlier and put a bracelet on him instead of deporting.. (ie trump's ICE not Obama's)


Let me repeat that for those who dont understand.

NO STATE is required to detain poeple in order to facilitate ICE . This is settled law, there is no debate.


Trump and Sessions can't arrest people without a real charge and frankly the only ones likely to be chargeable are likley whoever was supposed to put the anklet back on the bad guy...

that is pretty much the ONLY mistake here. Remember if you don't like the law work in your state to have them change it...
You're right. ICE is playing dumb here. When the jail removed the monitor the company monitoring it would have gotten a signal, why didn't ICE do anything then? Also, ICE could have picked him up at the jail when he was released...or even better they could have called a federal judge and gotten a warrant for his arrest. ICE knows SF jail policy & when they requested the detainer they knew the jail wouldn't honor it. Sometimes I think ICE 'lets' things like this happen just for the headlines.
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