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the alarmists are the ones pushing/spinning their cherry picked info
its easy to cherry pick a state of warming..and use the CONTROL WORDS like "unprecedented" or "never seen before", or "historical", or "first time in recorded history"
has the earth been warming over the last 35 years more than the last 150 years.....yes
has the earth been warming more in the last 150 years than the 150 before that....yes
does that mean warming is getting out of hand....no
does that mean its man-caused.....no
there is no evidence of 'man-made' global warming.... not once scientists has given or showed undisputed beyond doubt evidence that this global warming is man-made and not part of the natural cycle
do we humans pollute...yes....can we do something about that....yes
do we humans waste...yes.....can we do something about that....yes
do we humans overdevelop and cut trees(a natural radiant cooler and co2 user/o2 PRODUCER)...yes......can we do something about that....yes
are we humans the cause of the earths climate changes........NO
I live right on the shore on Long Island...long Island was CREATED by the last glaciers.....did we CAUSE the warming 15 thousand of years ago to melt the glaciers????...........NO
and warmer (as in global warming, means more moisture, ie tropical as opposed to desert...)(that's why the deserts are greening) is better than ice covering 3/4 of the planet
the reality is 99.9% of people understand that climate change is real.........
been happening for the 4 billion years this earth has existed.........
climate always changes....there have been over two dozen major ice ages...and two dozen interglacial periods, where the peak global average temp have been about 73-75'f (about 14-17'f warmer than currently)...............climate change is natural....(I like using Fahrenheit because of the smaller(more detailed) increments)
according to the cycles, we are about HALF WAY through the warming(inter-glacial period) before we hit the peak at 75'f +/-2' (our current global average is only about 58-59'f)
the warming of the last 100 years is part of the warming of the last 18000 years since the peak of the last major ice age.
never has it been a perfect sine wave.. the warming is a very erratic upward trend
only people who deny history and science , are the ones calling it man made.
mans contribution to it is like 2% to maybe 5%......what we do need to do is be better custodians of our planet, and stop polluting so much and abusing our natural resources
I think we should always be expanding technology and moving towards better energy....I believe solar is the answer..and wish former president oboma had made that his "shovel ready' stimulus plan instead of his unstimulating stimulus bill...........I don't think wind is really viable
we do need to do better in recycling and reducing the garbage we produce.....instead of making everything disposable and has to be replaced 3-5 years... go back to making things that last
but instead the fascist liberals continue to say man-made, and their only answer is more taxes
Actually the earth was cooling for about 5,000 years, and began to warm in the late 1800s when people began to use fossil fuels...Do you think that is a coincidence?
Actually the earth was cooling for about 5,000 years, and began to warm in the late 1800s when people began to use fossil fuels...Do you think that is a coincidence?
when did the last Ice age end(peak).....about 16000 years ago....
common sense and science says we have been warming since...is it smooth..no...have there been a few ''cool'' periods since the last glacial period...sure
"This is the inescapable conclusion of a landmark paper, published in Nature Geoscience, which finally admits that the computer models have overstated the impact of carbon dioxide on climate and that the planet is warming more slowly than predicted."
Climates do not change without a cause, and it is clear that there are no natural forcings causing the present warming...That leaves only human causes.
right, so some scientist cant find a cause for the current warming/inter glacial period, perhaps because he refuses to look at the geological evidence, he decides that it has to be caused by humans, and he then proceeds to create an alarmist cult, and you have fallen for it hook line and sinker, based solely on your political beliefs.
and you wont even consider other points of view, because apparently your masters have said they dont count because they somehow lack the credentials, despite the fact that they are scientists, and have actually studied the issue and came up with different conclusions to what you are your overlords have decided.
reality check here, we are only 12-15,000 years out of the last period of glaciation, thus the planet has been warming for that 15,000 or so years. if the cycles hold true to form, it will be another 15,000 or so years before we go back into a cooling cycle that will bring us into a new period of glaciation. that will probably last about 50,000 or so years, rather like the last one did.
maybe if you actually looked at the evidence in total with an open mind, you might actually come to a different conclusion, and break away from the cult of global warming. but i seriously doubt it, you are too ingrained in your beliefs to actually open your mind up and take a real look at the evidence.
when did the last Ice age end(peak).....about 16000 years ago....
common sense and science says we have been warming since...is it smooth..no...have there been a few ''cool'' periods since the last glacial period...sure
Fail...Read your chart....It is for the northern hemisphere, not the globe.
right, so some scientist cant find a cause for the current warming/inter glacial period, perhaps because he refuses to look at the geological evidence, he decides that it has to be caused by humans, and he then proceeds to create an alarmist cult, and you have fallen for it hook line and sinker, based solely on your political beliefs.
Where do you think the geological evidence comes from, if not from science... The causes of glacial and interglacial periods are well understood by science... The interglacials and glacials coincide with cyclic changes in the Earth's orbit. Three orbital variations contribute to interglacials. The first is a change in the Earth's orbit around the sun, or eccentricity. The second is a shift in the tilt of the Earth's axis, the obliquity. The third is precession, or wobbling motion of Earth's axis. https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/abrupt-cli...acial%20Cycles
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and you wont even consider other points of view, because apparently your masters have said they dont count because they somehow lack the credentials, despite the fact that they are scientists, and have actually studied the issue and came up with different conclusions to what you are your overlords have decided.
No, as I've told you before I follow the science...This means that I read the papers published by genuine climate scientists.
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reality check here, we are only 12-15,000 years out of the last period of glaciation, thus the planet has been warming for that 15,000 or so years. if the cycles hold true to form, it will be another 15,000 or so years before we go back into a cooling cycle that will bring us into a new period of glaciation. that will probably last about 50,000 or so years, rather like the last one did.
Wrong again.... the last four interglacials lasted over 20,000 years with the warmest portion being a relatively stable period of 10,000 to 15,000 years duration. https://www.usgs.gov/faqs/how-long-c...al-period-last
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maybe if you actually looked at the evidence in total with an open mind, you might actually come to a different conclusion, and break away from the cult of global warming. but i seriously doubt it, you are too ingrained in your beliefs to actually open your mind up and take a real look at the evidence.
As I said above I have looked at the evidence, and follow it closely.
A former member of the Obama administration claims Washington D.C. often uses “misleading” news releases about climate data to influence public opinion.
Former Energy Department Undersecretary Steven Koonin told The Wall Street Journal Monday that bureaucrats within former President Barack Obama’s administration spun scientific data to manipulate public opinion.
Isn't your boy constantly carping about overhauling the tax code? Isn't that one of the reasons you voted for him? The end user costs need capped, and in the interest of fairness, so do the carbon taxes. Natural gas is destructive to the environment as well. If we cannot agree on oil companies paying a graduated carbon tax (again one that is capped, along with rate increases) then the development of solar power (which China clearly leads the world in) should be accelerated with tax breaks for companies doing so.
Something tells me your boy ain't gonna be a part of this plan.
First off I didn't vote for him nor is he "my boy". As for the tax code, he can't wave a wand (or a pen like his predecessor was fond to do) to get taxes done.
One must also remember he's not been in office even a year yet and as good OLD Mitch said "you have unrealistic expectations on how fast legislators work" so there's that.
As for your tax idea? Again they don't pay taxes, they only collect them for the government.
Now, let's talk about your little solar idea vs other energy sources. You are aware that it takes more energy to make a freaking solar panel that it will ever generate right? How's about all the hazmat involved, does it just POOF disappear?
Natural Gas is a clean burning STEPPING STONE that could be put into play right now while we work on other energy ideas. Solar is no where near ready for prime time and neither are any of the other so-called solutions like windmills.
One other thing to think about, if solar were the end all be all then why does the government have to foot almost the total cost for developing it? If it were really going to be the greatest thing for ALL people then wouldn't private corporations be flocking to it to make the possible billions of dollars?
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