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Old 09-20-2017, 12:14 PM
 
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"Educated Liberal"

It's a contradiction in terms.

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Old 09-20-2017, 12:14 PM
 
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My ancestors are mostly from Texas and every sermon ended with "you will burn in hell for all eternity if you sin!" Sin included everything from dancing to creating lust in someone else's heart. It's a very disturbing culture in the middle and southern states. They can have it.
Of the dozens of churches I've attended in Texas, I've never heard that once.

Can you name any of these churches?
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Old 09-20-2017, 12:17 PM
 
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Of the dozens of churches I've attended in Texas, I've never heard that once.

Can you name any of these churches?
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/201...ACRE-SURVIVORS

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Stedfast Baptist Church in Fort Worth, Texas delivered a fiery sermon to his congregation in which he called for the survivors of the horrific massacre at the gay Pulse night club in Orlando, Florida last week to die and burn in hell.
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Old 09-20-2017, 12:20 PM
 
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I am going to open a can of worms, but it is what it is. This is what I've noticed. Race plays a bigger part of this. Among the White population, at least where I live, there are more liberals among the college educated. While I do met White Republicans who are college educated, the vast majority of White liberals I know have a college education. Most working class Whites I've met tend to be conservative. With Blacks, this is what I've noticed. Most Blacks vote Democrat, whether they are working class, working poor, middle class, upper class, college educated, or barely educated. Among Hispanics, most of the conservative Hispanics I've met were born and raised in the USA, and are pretty much "Americanized" as some might call it. Education level notwithstanding. Among Asians I've met, it varies. Most Asian Republicans I've met have been Vietnamese. Outside of that, many Democrats.

Across the country, the "coasts" theory isn't that applicable. Educated liberals can be found in any large city in the USA. If you account for race, even moreso.
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Old 09-20-2017, 12:26 PM
 
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What problem? Answer the effing question or leave the thread.

The fact is I didn't answer b/c it's a glib question, but I'll indulge in this game for a bit.


Middle class is benefited by access to reasonable cost health-care, ability to keep more of their paycheck, access to education (college or vocational), access to clean air and water.
Where I would postulate that you and I differ is that I feel those are best achieved by crafting policies aimed directly at the middle class whereas GOP dogma is to allow the middle class to catch the crumbs falling out of the pockets of the 1%; somehow they tricked blue collar low/skill low/education voters that this is the way out of their present through phony culture wars like welfare queens, Acorn, BLM, gay marriage, etc.

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Old 09-20-2017, 12:29 PM
 
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Fascinating that in all your searches via google, you could only find a Hispanic preacher saying such.

I might be wrong, but I don't think that fits the false narrative that you are attempting to debunk.


(of course this sort of thing happens when the only response is to google up a link)
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Old 09-20-2017, 12:52 PM
 
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I am going to open a can of worms, but it is what it is. This is what I've noticed. Race plays a bigger part of this. Among the White population, at least where I live, there are more liberals among the college educated. While I do met White Republicans who are college educated, the vast majority of White liberals I know have a college education. Most working class Whites I've met tend to be conservative. With Blacks, this is what I've noticed. Most Blacks vote Democrat, whether they are working class, working poor, middle class, upper class, college educated, or barely educated. Among Hispanics, most of the conservative Hispanics I've met were born and raised in the USA, and are pretty much "Americanized" as some might call it. Education level notwithstanding. Among Asians I've met, it varies. Most Asian Republicans I've met have been Vietnamese. Outside of that, many Democrats.

Across the country, the "coasts" theory isn't that applicable. Educated liberals can be found in any large city in the USA. If you account for race, even moreso.
Spot on sir.
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Old 09-20-2017, 12:59 PM
 
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I don't think any party has a monopoly on education. Shrug. What does your view on abortion have to do with IQ... it's about values. I think party affiliation has a stronger correlation with class or race than education. And I do mean I think... someone's probably done a study on this.
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Old 09-20-2017, 01:07 PM
 
Location: Free From The Oppressive State
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Nation Wide,

Clinton won College grads with 49% to 45%

Post grad, 58% to 37%



Exit Polls 2016

You can switch between the states, she wins post college grad in just about all of them, college grade in most.

Louisiana and West Virginia are horrible examples for 2 reasons.

1. Because you are arguing perception, not actual facts

2. That perception is based on living in areas where conservatives outnumber liberals anyways.
Saying that they're 'college grads' doesn't mean jack squat if they got their degree in something useless like "Art History" or "Women's Studies". A 5th grader could pass and get those types of degrees.
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Old 09-20-2017, 01:13 PM
 
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Saying that they're 'college grads' doesn't mean jack squat if they got their degree in something useless like "Art History" or "Women's Studies". A 5th grader could pass and get those types of degrees.
Useless in what sense? You do know there are a fair amount of successful business people or even, gasp, artists who have humanities degrees, right?
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