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It's kinda sad some people here have completely lost anything resembling vision. Complain as you may about California's heavy-handed approach to many things, at least they're trying to be forward-looking. Some of the people here (particularly the righties) are so fixated on idealizing the past they've completely forgotten to think about what the future could be. Any future that does not resemble the past is to be held suspect. These are the same kind of people who, if you told somebody in 1959 we would be on the moon in a decade, they'd find some reason to rant against that, tell you that Mankind Was Not Supposed To Go To Space And It Will Cost Too Much Money And Be Corporate Welfare, or some other ridiculous reason.
Here is the California of the Future.
This pretty much describes today's GOP. Any future that does not resemble 1959 is a future that is to be feared.
if you read the post I was responding to that stated safety features didnt exist until the govt mandated them, you wouldnt be wasting everyones time with your question.
I read the entire exchange, my reply was directly related to what you and the other posters said.
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Originally Posted by Frank DeForrest
Yes electric cars have been around since the 1800's. Since they're such a good idea why is it taking laws and bribes to get people to buy them?
Why did it take laws and bribes to get people to buy cars with air bags?
Mandating a propulsion system on a car is no different than mandating seat belts or air bags.
Yes, until recently electric cars have not been very practical or affordable. That is rapidly changing - a fact which can enable places like California, France and others to consider making them mandatory.
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I don't take busses or other socialist-inspired transportation. The high tech types you mention are leaving the land of fruit and nuts in droves. Normal people have had it with Kali's rules and regs.
Most Americans want performance cars and trucks. Not geek-boy electrics.
Until there is a way to stop "performance cars and trucks" from spewing pollutants into the air and consuming non renewable petroleum, they are a problem in the macro sense. And I say this as a truck driver and muscle car lover
You didn't disprove his point. IF companies have no incentive to be safer and all the companies are like no one is becoming safer and it ends up saving money with only a minuscule amount of people looking for alternatives then they will continue to make their cars unsafe until either more consumers argued against it or the government regulates it.
I have 2 kids. I will not buy a car less than the highest stars amount possible.
but you are fighting history. We WILL go to 100% electric and AI controlled cars with ZERO human allowed to drive on public roads and very limited fossil fuel vehicles, but not for consumers.
this is just the reality of the world YOU live in, so i suggest you just get used to it.
nobody is doing it today, and obviously it will be phased in, but ultimately if you are young you will be telling your great grandkids about how people used to "drive" on public roads and that tens of thousands of people died each year ....
AI and electric are going to make cars CHEAPER than ever. TCO will fall through the floor and at the same time people will buy fewer cars and eventually many middle class families will simply choose to not even own one.
You are fairly ignorant on this subject.
Two questions:
1. What will you do with all the gasoline?
2. How much will plastics go up due to gasoline going from a huge profit center to a major liability?
It's kinda sad some people here have completely lost anything resembling vision. Complain as you may about California's heavy-handed approach to many things, at least they're trying to be forward-looking. Some of the people here (particularly the righties) are so fixated on idealizing the past they've completely forgotten to think about what the future could be. Any future that does not resemble the past is to be held suspect. These are the same kind of people who, if you told somebody in 1959 we would be on the moon in a decade, they'd find some reason to rant against that, tell you that Mankind Was Not Supposed To Go To Space And It Will Cost Too Much Money And Be Corporate Welfare, or some other ridiculous reason.
Here is the California of the Future.
In general as culture according to these techies becomes more advances it also regresses and gets more complicated.
The fantasy of electric cars charged with solar panels on people's homes is an expensive fantasy compared to a gallon of gas. Gas is $2 a gallon in much of the country. A typical solar system is $30,000 or more if they use solar to charge these electric cars.
These complicated artificial-intelligence, electric car lifestyles that the liberal environmentalists dream about is very expensive for working class America.
Many people just a a $1,000 clunker and $2 a gallon gas as opposed to $40,000 electric cars and a $30,000 rooftop solar system.
There are some technological upgrades that are nice such as more information available these days and improved medical technology although that has caused medical premiums to skyrocket and take over a huge chunk of the economy.
I personally can do without artificial intelligence as it is artificial and complicated rather than the simpleness of the past which is easy.
Another thing is many of these technology advancements have flaws. So many self-driving cars have gotten into accidents that it hard to count all the videos I have seen.
Most Americans want performance cars and trucks. Not geek-boy electrics.
Not so. Not everyone wants to drive a big lifted truck or a large SUV. Different strokes for different folks. The "geek-boy" comment makes you sound insecure in your masculinity.
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