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Old 10-20-2017, 07:07 PM
 
Location: Jacksonville, FL
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Yeah, I could go along with that.

I just wish there was a way to get people to not even start. It's not like people before they start, aren't aware of the ramifications of drug and alcohol abuse.

It's the same thing with tobacco products. You'd have to be living on Mars to not understand the consequences of smoking. I might have smoked maybe half a dozen cigarettes in my lifetime if that. The first time I tried one, I thought: These things taste like s**t! They serve no purpose. Why would I want to continue?

I do kinda' feel sorry for people who are addicted to drugs. It wasn't like my cousin was a bad person. Christ, we grew up together and shared a lot of good times when we were kids. We sure raised a lot of hell together. He'd give you the shirt off his back. But that all ended when he got involved with that crap. From his late teens till the day he died his whole life revolved around drugs. My father would often say: My God, what a waste of a perfectly good body.

Then you think of all the people who died through no fault of their own who would just love to had a chance at life only to see others just flush their lives down the toilet. It really is a crying shame.

One of my nephews was born with a rare genetic disease and died at age 18. Right before his high school graduation. What a great kid, my God what he had to endure while growing up. Most adults couldn't deal with that and yet he soldiered on. We miss him terribly. Then I think of my cousin.

Obviously there are no laws to prevent people from destroying themselves. But when they do it can sure wreak havoc on their friends and family as well. You can be damn sure of that.
Unfortunately, just like there is no way to stop violence there is no way to stop addiction. I come from a family that has more than its fair share of addicts. All four of my grandparents were functioning alcoholics, and their kids were young adults just in time for the hippy movement. Some dabbled, some never stopped. I've had my own issues with addiction in the past, both alcohol and harder stuff. I was a young adult in South Florida in the early nineties, you can do the math. No law ever stopped anyone in my family from indulging in their habits.

The point is, we can't stop addiction. We've been trying for fifty years and had no success. It sucks, but it's the truth. What we can do is try to educate our children about the dangers and encourage them to ignore peer pressure. We can also stop destroying the lives of people who fall down that proverbial slope by taking away any chance of getting help for their problems.
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Old 10-20-2017, 07:09 PM
 
Location: PSL
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As I said a background check might mean different things and it does. I never discussed NICS.

I could tell you what is needed to decrease the likelihood of gun violence but you are not going to like it.
Go for it.

But remember if I give you what you want, you give me what I want. And I promise you, you won't like that.

Compromise is meeting in the middle.
Want psych screenings. Want blood. Hair. Finger prints. Registry.

I get unrestricted access to everything I want.
Belt fed/box fed machine guns.
Suppressors deregulated to be a fire arm accessory no different than that of a sling bipod or optic.
No limits on ammo.

Fair compromise yes?
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Old 10-20-2017, 07:09 PM
 
Location: Louisiana
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I have no idea what you are talking about, not having a registry is actually one of the problems.
Yeah, that's a problem alright.
Ya can't round em up if ya don't know where they are.





Not an inch.
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Old 10-20-2017, 07:10 PM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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A registry ?! Which part didn't you get, 42 arrests and 15 felony convictions ....he should be rotting away in a cell not on some registry.
Well, he obviously did his lawful "rotting away" and then got out so shouldn't the nation know about him and his whereabouts to protect them from this obviously very,very dangerous person?
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Old 10-20-2017, 07:13 PM
 
Location: PSL
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Yeah, that's a problem alright.
Ya can't round em up if ya don't know where they are.





Not an inch.
I want to see if they are for fair compromise.
If they want ridiculous demands. We make ours.

No restrictions. What so ever. No limits. What so ever. They get their registry and rainbow unicorns and puppy dogs. We get everything the military has/had access to short of field artillery and nukes.

I want to see if they're for real on a fair compromise.
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Old 10-20-2017, 07:13 PM
 
Location: New York Area
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I have never understood the law against suicide. It is only technically suicide if they succeed. How would they arrest a dead person?
Very simple. Capital punishment for suicide attempters.
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Old 10-20-2017, 07:14 PM
 
Location: PSL
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Well, he obviously did his lawful "rotting away" and then got out so shouldn't the nation know about him and his whereabouts to protect them from this obviously very,very dangerous person?
Maryland shooter?

He was a convicted felon... he didn't buy those guns at a gun store or a gun show...
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Old 10-20-2017, 07:16 PM
 
Location: Louisiana
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I want to see if they are for fair compromise.
If they want ridiculous demands. We make ours.

No restrictions. What so ever. No limits. What so ever. They get their registry and rainbow unicorns and puppy dogs. We get everything the military has/had access to short of field artillery and nukes.

I want to see if they're for real on a fair compromise.

Nukes make really lousy self defense weapons.
It's just so damn hard to get out of the blast radius in time.
No use for artillery either, ammo is too expensive.
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Old 10-20-2017, 07:18 PM
 
Location: PSL
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Nukes make really lousy self defense weapons.
It's just so damn hard to get out of the blast radius in time.
No use for artillery either, ammo is too expensive.
Sure would make for one hell of a grand finale on the 4th of July though!
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Old 10-20-2017, 07:19 PM
 
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Perhaps reading comprehension is not your forte?
Even punching someone int he face to steal a wallet or a purse is not a crime to lock someone up for life.

Now, violently beating (with possibility of killing) is a very different story....same as attacking a much more weak person (an old lady for example).
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